This works! Kinda in the back door way of doing it but it is perfect. Plus I can create a page of preset stations for both FM and AM acitivities based on the directtune function. Maximum fields for fequencies is 4, first field is the directtune function. I only need 3 or 4 fields for station frequency numbers so this will work just fine.

Will be nice to not need to scan presets any more but use the remote like the number pad on the front of my car radio. Very cool.

Anyone else going to use this idea?

Will finish it up after work this afternoon. Just tried a couple of stations to check it.

Sorta like creating the favorite function for TV channels except using radio stations.

You might even be able to create a sequence for InputFM and AMFMToggle and use that as a discrete input selection command if that's allowed. If not use InputFM for both Listen to FM and Listen to AM and add the AMFMToggle to the beginning of the Listen to AM activity only.

If you have another learning remote, create the InputFM followed by the AMFMToggle sequence, then teach it back (using RAW mode) to the harmony remote as a single discrete command (name it InputAM). Note: The Adjust Input Method 2 (discrete method) configuration use to support multiple commands (sequence) per input, but the feature was removed (thanks to Harmony infinite wisdom) forcing people to add the additional command(s) in the activity start.

I setup commands for when the activity is chosen by using the add commands to the device so at start up, or when first chosen, it runs the commands. I am waiting for my One For All to be able to pass macros back to the 880.

I'm still confused about where RAW mode is. I know what it is in terms of learning the remote's commands. But where is raw mode? I used it before but when I did if I remember correctly there were the options to learn raw or regular in the learn remote commands screen/button screen. I don't see RAW any longer. Where is it now?

Jim

Edit: I just found RAW under custom. Thanks.

I think I have created a monster.....

For some reason, certainly not by design, all of the radio stations I listen to are either 3 digits for AM or 4 digits for FM. I have exactly enough fields in sequencing to do what I need to do. However my wife listens to a couple of stations further up the FM dial that are 5 digits, what you think is 102.5 is 102.50. So for her stations, I do not have enough fields again.

As a husband I did what I am suppose to do. I showed the wife how creative and ingenious I am by saying, "Look honey at the remote, I have radio stations programmed it...." Which of course drew the wifely oohs, ahhhs, etc. She really likes the Harmony 880 by the way and actually does appreciate the work I put into it. She hit the FM activity, hit a few buttons, hit he AM activity, hit a few buttons (she is the one that listens to more AM than I as she is baseball and basketball fan). Then noticed "Where are xxx.xx and yyy.yy statiions dear?" Dang. Back to needing to program a macro. Needs to be two macros to finish this up. A .50 macro and a .90 macro. All the stations are either xxx.50 or yyy.90. Having a macro to do the last two digits will finish it up.

OR Logitech adding more fields of course!

Recieved the One for All URC 8910 today. Ordered it for two reasons, one to act as buffer to learn macros from and then back to the Harmony and to do some stuff on my Toshiba RPTV that needs the right codes to access some deeper menues. Just finished programming the Harmony to do the FM/AM stations. Worked perfectly. Taught the One For All the codes, put them into its macro keys, taught the Harmony the macro keys from the One For All using raw mode, works!!!!!

Now I have buttons on the Harmony for FM and AM stations that act like memory presets. Very cool.

Jim

Glad you got it working. They really should extend the favorite channel feature to all tuners not just TVs.

I'd be glad if they took the time to fix the sequence display bug.

I've read through this thread & I honestly have no idea where to find any of the stuff you guys are referring to. I've just installed the client v7.3.2; I've ALWAYS wanted to be able to do what you're describing, because my H/K receiver goes ON with input commands (i.e, it'll turn ON and be on input DVD if I simply hit "DVD" on the original remote), however, I really don't know where to start. I wouldn't call myself a noob but I bet I sure sound like one...

IDEALLY, I'd just opt to leave the receiver on all the time (as far as the 880 is concerned) and just tag an AVR OFF command onto the end of the power off button sequence... but I can't edit that, can I? There ought to be an advanced edit mode for this thing.

Setup the AVR device so that it has discrete power buttons (different buttons for on and off) and give it a bogus command for power on. That way it will send the bogus command to turn on the AVR but the input selection command will really turn it on. And it will automatically send the OFF command when you hit OFF or go to an activity that doesn't use the AVR.

Brilliant!

I needed to do a little tweaking to get this to work, but it achieved exactly what I was looking for.

1) I already had discrete commands for AVR On & AVR Off. I re-learned the AVR On as some random button on a remote for a device that's not in my living room, so it won't affect my home theater.
2) Tested it out... worked like I should have expected--everything turns on, with the AVR turning on after a huge delay. I reordered the device power-up in all activities so that the AVR On command goes out first.
3) Tested... that didn't change anything, so I had to decrease the "power on delay" on my AVR to 0 ms.

Voila! Works great. Thanks for the tip.

There's a small, unexpected problem with the solution above. My AVR is on "Video 2" for digital cable. If I start the Watch Cable activity, the AVR turns on with the "Video 2" command, instead of the "AVR On" command as before--so far, so good. However, if I power off & then Watch Cable again, the 880 doesn't send "Video 2" again! It's as if it 'remembers' the last input selection it sent to the AVR. I really didn't think it was that smart. In this case, it's a nuisance.

What I've done is changed the setup of each activity to include an ADDITIONAL (redundant) IR command for whatever input the AVR needs to be on. It will add some time to the sequence, but it's still less duration than my original setup.
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In the process of updating the remote with the changes above, I got an error... the remote can't be updated. I've got to call customer support. What a pain in the ass. Will post later.

What is the model number of your H/K AVR? If your AVR supports the discrete "PowerOn" command (test it in device mode), then use it (instead of the bogus command). Also, if your AVR supports the discrete input commands (test them in device mode), then reconfigure the device Adjust Inputs to use the discrete method (Method 2). The Harmony remote will blindly re-send all discrete input and power commands to device configured and deemed discrete capable when you press the same activity again.

It does support a discrete command, and what you've described is my setup for the previous 6 months or so. However, you're incorrect in that the 880 does NOT re-send discrete input commands if the last input command was the same as the one you've selected! This is an unexpected "feature." Example:

My H/K AVR input setting for "TV" is VIDEO 2. Starting with all systems off, I select the activity "Watch TV" and the 880 sends out AVR ON, TV ON, AVR VIDEO 2 (simplistically). Then I turn the system off. Some time later, I select the activity "Watch TV" and the 880 will send out AVR ON, TV ON!! NO AVR VIDEO 2!!

This was explained to me by Harmony customer support. They re-wrote some XML on their side to set up my account so that 1) the input selects are ALWAYS sent to my 880, and 2) the AVR ON discrete command is NOT sent. The AVR OFF discrete command still works. And again, the point of this whole exercise was to power my AVR on with the INPUT selects, which it responds to, so as to reduce the power-up time as well as the time I have to point the remote at my AVR (which was previously 5 seconds).

I'm satisfied with my current setup. It works exactly as I'd intended, but absolutely required customer support intervention, as there is no opportunity for users to edit the XML program.

That should read "from" my 880.