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Harmony 880 sequencing
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Post 1 made on Saturday November 3, 2007 at 03:41
jsmiddleton4
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As one who did pass through, or dummy devices, to create as many chained commands as I needed I simply don't understand why only 5 fields in the new sequencing. It is easer to use no doubt. But way to limited at 5. I just emailed Logitech but we all know how that goes.

I tried using both, pass through and sequencing, but it doesn't work like I remember it. I don't see any way to daisy chain commands on one key/button like when we did pass through's.
Post 2 made on Saturday November 3, 2007 at 11:19
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Agreed. I also e-mailed them on this. I also wish they would fix the bug that moves the sequences to the last page of the custom buttons instead of the position they are placed by the user.
Post 3 made on Saturday November 3, 2007 at 11:28
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They just did it to piss you off. It couldn't have been internal technical limitations or anything logical like that.
Post 4 made on Saturday November 3, 2007 at 17:26
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there is no technical reason the remote cant follow additional sequences, since there are less convenient ways to do it currently, its just poor implementation.
OP | Post 5 made on Saturday November 3, 2007 at 22:16
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They just did it to piss you off.

I doubt that. Annoying yes, but pissed off? Not about a remote control no matter what they do.

And to try and use a learning remote as a buffer and then learn "macro" like commands back to the Logitech I looked at a Universal R5. That is one p.o.s. and I have never seen a product so misrepresented on its packaging and sales informaiton. It is so misrepresented I think they are close to breaking some consumer laws.
OP | Post 6 made on Saturday November 3, 2007 at 22:18
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I have not heard back from Logitech of course. Too soon I imagine. I didn't find a way to combine pass through devices and sequencing.

Why didn't they let us decided how many fields we needed like in man of the other screens where you can add more buttons, etc.?

To conserve memory? That makes no sense.
Post 7 made on Saturday November 3, 2007 at 23:08
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Sorry - got a little pissy there myself. As a former programmer I can imagine several valid, technical reasons why they had to limit it to 5. One of the logitech engineers posted that they considered 10 but had to go with 5 (I forget where - maybe the logitech forums or avsforum). Without understanding the code and the tradeoffs involved I don't think it's fair to imply that it would have been easy to have more than 5.
OP | Post 8 made on Sunday November 4, 2007 at 02:34
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Five is just not enough. Ten, as I'm thinking through it, probably is too many. But five is not enough.
Post 9 made on Sunday November 4, 2007 at 10:46
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Not enough for you but probably enough for 99.99% of the other users.

Just out of curiousity - what are you doing that requires more than 5 commands?
OP | Post 10 made on Sunday November 4, 2007 at 11:29
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Going from whatever I happen to be doing in terms of an activity to listening to a particular AM radio station preset with a custom button.
Post 11 made on Monday November 5, 2007 at 09:43
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Aha - you don't need a sequence for that. You need a new activity. Select Listen to AM activity and either have it automatically go to that preset station or have them on the LCD buttons. You should be able to get the AM input selection working by sending Input FM, then AMFMToggle. Sometimes you have to work with the remote instead of against it.
Post 12 made on Monday November 5, 2007 at 09:44
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And the reason you don't want to do this manually via a sequence is that the harmony smart state won't know that you've changed inputs on the receiver. You should never change inputs or turn components on or off manually - let the activity do that for you.
OP | Post 13 made on Monday November 5, 2007 at 11:34
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I am aware of how to use the Harmony to control things.

I might be able to do it as an activity in terms of the remote/programming. But I would not be able to assign the command to a button under my exisiting activity, "Listen to Radio".

I suppose I could make a series of activities all based on station presets for the radio. Then I just cycle through activities to get to presets for radio. While probably could work by using combination of commands, do this when device turns on options, etc., that seems a bit cumbersome although certainly doable.

I'd rather be able to program buttons under "Listen to Radio" to be my presets. So once toggled to FM or AM, set direct tune, then send the station numbers. There are no direct commands on the Pioneer for go to class A, preset 1. That would also make it too easy.

What REALLY needs to happen is Logitech needs to increase the fields in sequencing.........

:)
Post 14 made on Monday November 5, 2007 at 13:11
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You need 2 activities - Listen to FM and Listen to AM. Then all you need to do is send the preset selection number for each channel. This also lets you have separate lists for your AM and FM stations and it puts the input selection back into the activity control where it should be.
OP | Post 15 made on Monday November 5, 2007 at 13:18
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Then all you need to do is send the preset selection number for each channel....

Wish I could, but the Pioneer doesn't a have a way to do that. It only scans presets/class groups or toggles between bands. No direct way to enter a preset in the remote or even at the unit itself.

I could however create an activity to listen to AM and that would eliminate some steps in sequence which would open up a few fields so that 5 may be enough. I would only need to direct tune, not amfmtoggle. So direct tune, enter station frequency. Add buttons labeled with the station name, each one a sequence. That might work so the buttons displayed are like preset buttons on a car radio. May be on to something there.

So the AM Activity would be, turn on the Pioneer, inputFM, AMFM Toggle, the Pioneer is on AM no matter where it started. The inputFM works so that is the line in the sand that fixes the start point. Then buttons for the AM Activity are the sequence, directtune, then the numbers. That should be slick.
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