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Post 61 made on Sunday February 1, 2009 at 14:01
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On January 31, 2009 at 15:36, mcn779 said...
Anthony - evolution is a guess a hypothesis that can not
be proven at least at this time. It is not a truth but
in school and from it's supports it is taught in most
cases with certainty - the way things happened. Obvious
to who "But obviously something close to them had existed
and did eventually become tetrapods"? Since evolution
is only a theory it should be taught as such but it isn't
in the books my kids came home with and what was written
by their teachers was evolution as far from it being a
theory but as if it were provable and anyone that says
differently is a idiot which is far from the truth.

So, you are saying the stories in the Bible are all provable?
"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
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Post 62 made on Sunday February 1, 2009 at 14:03
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Mr. Stanley I never said that I don't believe in evolution! You are making gross assumptions. Of natural selection and I can to a point believe in evolving from a lower form of life but life coming from the primordial soup by happenstance - PLEASE. What I've said all along is that it is a hypothesis that has not been proven. But those of you are arguing against the very rule that is used to measure anything in science and you don't like the results or the fact you can't defend your position based on this rule. But make fun of what we believe in but you have no problem with life arising from the primordial soup. The probability of that happening when measured is beyond possible. If someone told any of us that they could have all the parts of a system sitting on the floor and over millions of years it would be put together correctly we would laugh at them. Statistically that is more probable than life coming from nothing. We deride the possibility of spontaneous generation but you have no problem believing that life evolved from the primordial soup by happenstance which is only steps removed.

Some of the Bible can be proven not all. You believe it for the most part to be fiction but life coming from nothing without direction or guidance is 100% believable. If you step outside either one they are both illogical and that's the point. You put me down for what I believe and glow in the illogical solution for where life came from.

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Post 63 made on Sunday February 1, 2009 at 15:28
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You are making gross assumptions. Of natural selection and I can to a point believe in evolving from a lower form of life but life coming from the primordial soup by happenstance - PLEASE.

but evolution and God are not contradictory. Evolution just talks of the tools, like natural selection, for the rest there is a lot of place for the hand of God (if you want to reconcile it with an active God). God could have lightning bolted/ avalanched... an individual, so A and B mated instead of A and C. Even then if A & B mate and D was born from the meeting, how many sperms got exchanged, was it luck or did God play a role?
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Post 64 made on Sunday February 1, 2009 at 17:17
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Not making fun here, just curious... What, physically, is your vision of God???

How do you picture him/her?
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Post 65 made on Sunday February 1, 2009 at 19:16
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On February 1, 2009 at 17:17, Mr. Stanley said...
Not making fun here, just curious... What, physically,
is your vision of God???

How do you picture him/her?

I don't. Jesus I can so I guess Jesus.
Post 66 made on Sunday February 1, 2009 at 19:19
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Anthony I agree and as far as I believe I can parallel the big bang and evolution to what is said in Genesis.
Post 67 made on Sunday February 1, 2009 at 20:40
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On February 1, 2009 at 14:03, mcn779 said...
Mr. Stanley I never said that I don't believe in evolution!
You are making gross assumptions. Of natural selection
and I can to a point believe in evolving from a lower
form of life but life coming from the primordial soup
by happenstance - PLEASE.

You consider that unbelievable, but the idea an omnipotent guy strolling around the universe, deciding to put down roots in our solar system and building and ant farm, makes sense....?

I sure hope natural selection kicks it up a notch...
....Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Post 68 made on Sunday February 1, 2009 at 20:45
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smokinghot - that is my point why is one any more preposterous than the other but one receive ridicule and is treated as the truth. The only part the I have trouble believing is the happenstance part.
Post 69 made on Sunday February 1, 2009 at 23:04
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Well seeing as the vast majority of the world population believes in some sort of God like figure, and the small amount that don't apparently are damned for enternity. I think ridicule is focused on science, not religion.

Only makes sense really. Change is scary for most...and religion has been stuck the dark age's logic since the beginning. Whereas science and/or reason continually advances and proves its theories. Sad part is, when we've advanced to the point where the big bang theory can be proven. I'm sure some religious body will start a crusade type endevour to elminate the bastards that have shown their false god as greatest hoax of all time.
....Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Post 70 made on Monday February 2, 2009 at 00:15
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The Big Bang theory correlates almost perfectly to the creation of the Bible. Look at this discussion over the point of evolution being a theory or not and tell me which side got ridiculed. Look at davidcasemore list on the other post and only one can not be proven and that is evolution.
OP | Post 71 made on Monday February 2, 2009 at 02:08
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On February 1, 2009 at 19:19, mcn779 said...
Anthony I agree and as far as I believe I can parallel
the big bang and evolution to what is said in Genesis.

My favorite part of the Genesis myth is where god creates plants on one day but doesn't create light until a day after. "I'm god! To hell with photosynthesis!"
Fins: Still Slamming' His Trunk on pilgrim's Small Weenie - One Trunk at a Time!
Post 72 made on Monday February 2, 2009 at 02:38
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On February 2, 2009 at 02:08, davidcasemore said...
My favorite part of the Genesis myth is where god creates
plants on one day but doesn't create light until a day
after. "I'm god! To hell with photosynthesis!"

Not so, please re-read it. Light comes first, plants follow, but then what you are thinking is the division of light from night to day which follows the creation of plant life. Light was already there, however.

[Link: quod.lib.umich.edu]
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
OP | Post 73 made on Monday February 2, 2009 at 02:39
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On February 2, 2009 at 00:15, mcn779 said...
The Big Bang theory correlates almost perfectly to the
creation of the Bible.

The bible was created by a Big Bang?

(Actually, a bible will make a big bang if you hurl it across the room and it hits a wall. I know because I've done this many times in hotel rooms when I cleared out space in the night stand drawer for my poppers, lube, condoms and dope. The Marriott hotels give me the opportunity to hurl that hilarious book of mormon along with the bible).
Fins: Still Slamming' His Trunk on pilgrim's Small Weenie - One Trunk at a Time!
Post 74 made on Monday February 2, 2009 at 02:48
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On February 1, 2009 at 15:28, Anthony said...
but evolution and God are not contradictory.

One says it happened without God and the other says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" and so on.

They are diametrically opposed.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
OP | Post 75 made on Monday February 2, 2009 at 11:39
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On February 2, 2009 at 02:48, Tom Ciaramitaro said...
One says it happened without God and the other says "In
the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" and
so on.

They are diametrically opposed.

They are.

One claim is based on science and reason and observation.

The other claim is from a work of fiction written thousands of years ago by people who "knew" that the earth was flat.

Your choice!
Fins: Still Slamming' His Trunk on pilgrim's Small Weenie - One Trunk at a Time!
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