I read an article that was frantic because the average global temp was withing a few degrees of it's all time high which they theorized happened about 3 million years ago. Dinosaur flatulence I guess. Also, if algore has the power to neutralize global warming with his carbon credits, why doesn't he just do it?

This whole algore thing makes me laugh out loud. I guess we all know who's radio show you listen to. If you want to just parrot what you're told on a infotainment show why not just "Whatever Rush says I go along with." Would it be a lot to ask for all these people who have nice derogatory labels for others to just refer to them by name, and to speak for themselves?



Dinosaurs died out 66 million years ago. Getting the facts right would be the first desirable step to an intelligent debate.


Would you maybe guess that's what he's trying to do? Short of declaring himself world emperor he needs to convince the other six billion souls on this globe to go along first.

The same could be said about debunking global warming concerns. Who's not at all concerned about global warming? The Bush administration.

Who are major funders to the Republican party? Polluters!

O.K. for all you guys who doubt the Global warming issue... Imagine that instead of Al Gore moderating that movie... It was Rush Limbaugh --- THEN maybe would you have a different opinion?

Take Al Gore out of the equasion (sp?)... for a minute. Look at what is happening to Greenland... Why have the last 6 or 7 summers been the hottest ever on record? Someone mentioned it's no big deal if the Ocean's temperature changes by a few degrees... actually that is catastrophic!

A lot of our seafood chains are dying out already. A huge number of animal & fish & reptilian species are dying out at alarming rates.

To insist that this is a sales job by some guy to make his fortune is so far out of touch with reality (imo).

Once China gets a few more zillion cars trucks and factories cranking out stuff with their new economy & industrial explsion (read the book, China Rising) it'll make the U.S. look like a bunch of Amish guys by comparison...

The air will be so polluted, the oceans too. Not to mention the competition for fossil fuels and drinking water. It'll look like Mexico City everywhere you go.

I recall in 1970... there was a movement towards limiting overpopulation and pollution and all the stuff we're faced with today --- That whole movement just sort of went away due to apathy and nay - sayers, powerful corporatios and some religious groups (not all of them mind you), that insisted God has it all figures out and not to worry as long as you keep coming back to church every Sunday and contributing $$$.

A lot of the kids attitudes today are that "Hey it's too late - we're all screwed" -- which I don't think is the case - yet but if we continue on the same course, it may be the case in another decade or so if we don't find an alternative to fossil fuels - or a way to radically minimize our consumption of them.

Can you imagine what the political climates would be like once we start having to compete for water, diminishing oil reserves, and food because the oceans get fished out & depleted due to fish dying out due to incremental temperature change? Fighting for food, energy and water --(actually aren't we already fighting over oil?)... Yet we are manufacturing gas guzzling 500 H.P. luxury SUV's Cars & Trucks as if we had way too much oil to ever worry about?

Well those of you who say it's a crock today, might have a different opinion in a few years that's the end of my rant.

Ignorance is bliss sometimes... Kind of like the beer swilling redneck who is in denial of being an alcoholic.

Next Monday on National Geo HD they are having a special on polar bears and how, because of global warming, they won't be around in 20 years. Watch it.

...Was she holding a gun in her hand???!!! LOL

It wasn't a bad question. The answer is that I'm always suspicious, i.e. skeptical. And of course there are and always will be people on each side of every issue that have all sorts of ulterior motives. If you buy a Dell computer now you get to feel good by donating a dollar or some such nonsense to "grow a tree" (Dell if I read correctly donates nothing!). So obviously Dell now realizes it's good business to promote green. But that doesn't mean that growing trees is a bad idea, does it?

So with regard to global warming, IMO the facts are as follows. There seems to be a very real consensus within the scientific community that global warming is a real and very serious issue. And that the results if we continue to ignore it will be catastrophic. Since I am NOT an expert, I will continue to read and study but in the mean time consider it wise to trust their opinion.

I will also read with great interest any writing by an acknowledged *scientific expert* (which requires peer acknowledgment, not just some proclaiming themselves an expert) that conflicts with the majority view. I will not however give much weight to the opinions of Michael Crichton on the one side nor Greenpeace activists on the other side.

That's an EXCELLENT point. However it does not mean that there are not some people who truly seek the truth as opposed to wanting to impose their truth on the world. And for that reason I must defer to our leading scientists, with the belief that is what science is all about - an impartial search for the truth (before someone argues it of course scientists can be subject to their own impartialities, so what). If in 5 years all of a sudden the vast majority of the leading scientists say "you know what evidence now suggests that global warming is not man-made after all and not a serious threat" then I will again defer to them.

It's pretty silly to cast doubt one the crowd who are arguing that global warming is an issue by talking about following the money. Let's put the amount of money that flows from the existing status quo of our fossil fuel based economy vs that amount of money that might be made by those trying to argue that global warming is an issue. I think that even if you were be incredibly generous it would be something approaching an elephant on one side of the scales and a gnat on the other. So if vested interest is a cause for doubting of the ethics and motivations of anyone, it would be vastly disproportionately pointing in the other direction.

Come on now, get YOUR facts straight! All good Christians know the dinosaurs died out around 6,000 years ago. Sheesh!
jc

Another person who cannot get their facts straight. The earth is 6000 years old. Dinosaurs never actually existed, they are a trick of the devil who put their bones here to confuse us and make us believe in all that evil evolution stuff.

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god I'M sorry I started this thread... you guys are all crazy

Now, I owe it to myself to tell you, Mr. Griswold, that if you are thinking of taking the tribe cross country, this is your automobile. The Wagon Queen Family Truckster. You think you hate it now, but wait till you drive it.

Look at what is happening to Greenland... Why have the last 6 or 7 summers been the hottest ever on record?

ok.. let's look at Greenland.

Do you know why it's called Greenland? Because it used to be green. The Vikings had colonies there when it was fertile farmland.

Yes, farmland.

This was during the Medieval Warm period, something that is (in)conveniently left out of my idiot cousin's little mockumentary (I can't call it a documentary because it's full of sh!t)

Even Ric Romero knows you can't farm on Greenland now because it's too cold.

And we never really made it to the moon... That was some movie studio! ;>)


...Oh, and PHAST is a product that will revolutionize home automation....!

no that was FROX...get your facts straight

The dudes right on, it will be green again and then sometime down the road it will freeze again. the only difference is the in between part might be a little more uncomforatable than usualy this time around