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This sort of thing drives me mad!!
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Post 1 made on Tuesday July 12, 2005 at 04:31
Mr Griffiths
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I have just seen a piece on GMTV called "Tag your Tot"
when you go on a beach you enter the tag your tot number into your mobile.
then you put a wrist band on your toddler and write your mobile number on there wrist.
When your kid goes missing you call the number and a life guard comes to you to get a discription of your kid and then a search begins.

Heres an idea how about actualy interacting with your kids , playing and talking with your children enjoying your holiday together as a family and not being so obsessed with your own tan (or getting drunk)that you let your kids wander off!
These sort of people don't need a Tag scheme no doubt to match the one they have on there own legs but they need parenting classes.
Post 2 made on Tuesday July 12, 2005 at 05:31
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On 07/12/05 04:31 ET, Mr Griffiths said...

These sort of people don't need a Tag scheme no
doubt to match the one they have on there own
legs but they need parenting classes.

I would entirely agree. A little bit more in the way of pro-active parenting would go an awful long way in stemming the tide of loutish behaviour we're presently experiencing. The trouble is of course, if they're louts to begin with they're hardly likely to be role model parents; probably more likely to give you a "good kicking" just for looking at their little "darlings" the wrong way.
Post 3 made on Tuesday July 12, 2005 at 11:48
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And people wonder how a child can get a gun into a school along with pipe bombs they've been building in their garage for a month. Parents don't pay enough attention to their kids the way it is. No wonder we are having the problem we are in society.
Post 4 made on Tuesday July 12, 2005 at 13:30
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Mike I agree 100% with your rant, but disagree with the rest.

Even though I think for some parents this will be an excuse to be less parenting. Anything that can help a kid is a good thing. I don't have any children, but do have 4 nephews and a niece, and I have learnt that no matter how much you pay attention there is always the possibility that a kid will get lost or something, and for that I think it is a good idea. To the parents that think a beach, movie theatre, park is a public communal babysitting service I would give them a big zero and they deserve the ranting (and unfortunately it looks like it is more common today to think "it is not my job to raise and parent my kid, but society in general, I want to live my life, not be a guard") but let's be honest, I am sure even with the best parents and best behaved kids, sometimes shit happens.
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Post 5 made on Tuesday July 12, 2005 at 13:35
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I'm sure that although Anthony is correct that it is hard to keep track of children in public places even when you are a good parent, I agree that most dingbats will probably abuse this system and let someone else worry about their child. I just got back from vacation, and I can personally tell you, I am tired of worrying about mine and someone else's child to boot that was left alone at the pool or ocean or whereever else you can leave a child on vacation. People are getting dumber over time I believe...
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Post 6 made on Tuesday July 12, 2005 at 13:52
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I remember being 6 years old, and riding my bike to school over a mile away from home. My 4 yr old will never be asked to do that. In this day and time, we as parents HAVE to keep a tighter grip on the little ones. I'm not saying it was bad for me, but I wont let my 2 boys(both under 5) go to a public restroom with out me. Tight leash? maybe. Safe kids? Definatley
I long for a better world. One in which a chickens motives will not be questioned when mearly crossing the road.
Post 7 made on Tuesday July 12, 2005 at 14:29
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Marky: agree, not sure if it is dumber parents or just the fact that society has changed so much. Let's be honest most of your day you entrust your kid and everything about him to strangers, so why not do the same on the beach :) I also think kids notice that as well and get used to the idea. I think the problem is real community (people we know well ) has shrunk due to distance and false community has gotten bigger (i.e. the guy at the pool with his kids won't let anything happen to mine)
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OP | Post 8 made on Tuesday July 12, 2005 at 17:23
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When i go shopping and i take my 8 yr or 13 yr daughters or my 17 yr son i involve them
Hey do you think mum will like me in this ?
What colour should i get?
Do you like the taste of this?
I really value your opinion does this go with that ? etc etc
All the time interacting ,talking ,extending there vocabulary ,building a friendship..guess what they dont run around the shop screaming or hiding and i gain from the experience.
Some parents only talk to there kids to order them to do something and then don't tell them why it was wrong when they do the opposite. IT DOESNT WORK! unless the kids are totally affraid of you because you smack them(which is not what i want or do).

It seems to me some parents are just lazy and stupid.
Not knowing any better is no excuse ,my parents used the smack method and two of my sisters ran away from home.
I knew the system of a smack or punishment would not work for me so i do it the interactive way.
Dont get me wrong my kids are very scared of doing something wrong incase it upsets my trust and they feel that i would feel dissapointed in them.

Losing your child can be an accident but more often it's because the parents are thinking about something else ..normally there own personal needs.
Post 9 made on Tuesday July 12, 2005 at 18:27
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Like I said, agree with your rant, and agree with what you say. The only part I did not agree with is that it is a bad idea. I am also sure that it is not there for 17 year olds :) like you said, tag your tots I am guessing <5, to me I see it as extra security and piece of mind, and not as a way to let your kid run wild. Do I think some (maybe even most) parents will see it as a way of shrugging their responsibility? yes. On the other hand if it helps a kid, I am all for it. Even bad kids with worst parents deserve good things
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OP | Post 10 made on Tuesday July 12, 2005 at 18:35
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On 07/12/05 18:27 ET, Anthony said...
Even bad kids with worst parents deserve
good things

I agree
Post 11 made on Wednesday July 13, 2005 at 12:11
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Tagging the child for the child's sake is a great idea. Tagging them for the parent's is not. I don't think you will find anyone that says we shouldn't do everything we can to make kids safer.

Maybe there should be a test that must be passed in order to have kids. I can see it now:

Question 1) The statement, "Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina" is true or false.

Question 2) When a baby cries, you should: A) Close the doors so you cannot hear him/her. B) Pick the child up and shake briskly until he/she stops crying. C) Tape a pacifier in the child's mouth so that he/she can no longer cry. D) Check the child's diaper, feed the child, or hold the child.

Question 3) You should expect to spend about how much time with your child? A) Five minutes a day B) Ten minutes a day C) Thirty minutes a day D) More than thirty minutes a day.

Insert your remaining questions so I don't go on forever.....

If this test is failed the parents to be would then immediately be steralized.

Think this would work? :)
Post 12 made on Wednesday July 13, 2005 at 13:03
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Tagging the child for the child's sake is a great idea. Tagging them for the parent's is not. I don't think you will find anyone that says we shouldn't do everything we can to make kids safer.

did not say anyone said the contrary. I just wanted to clear up my position where I see it more as a positive then a negative. Yes some parents will abuse the system and tell the kids to go bother someone else, then again most of those parents do that already. All I am saying is if this helps one kid, then it is worth the 100 kids that are told go bother someone else at the end of the day when I want to find you I will use the tag bracelet, and all those 100 kids come to bother me because for some reason kids tend to gravitate that way.
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OP | Post 13 made on Wednesday July 13, 2005 at 19:27
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The other day my youngest girl fell out with the girl across the street.
"I only came over to play football with your dad not you!"
her dad has clinical depression and is not well enough to play with her most days her mum has a problem with drink.

This puts me and my kids in a difficult position we all know the score but i feel put upon and my kids feel pushed aside ...so i go out alot with my kids to the park etc where we again meet kids crying out for attention.

I just wish the world put a bigger emphasis on parenthood.
Post 14 made on Thursday July 14, 2005 at 09:27
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agree
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