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Topic: | Ir to Bluetooth with all 51 PS3 commands - finally a solution! This thread has 28 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 29. |
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OP | Post 16 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 14:19 |
On March 30, 2008 at 14:10, smokinghot said...
This changes depending what you are doing with the PS3. eg:watching a movie or playing a game. Also, most people will use the ir2bt device for watching movies or browsing through the XMB menus. If you are playing a game, you will grab the controller and most likely power off with that anyway. Just my 2 cents.
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Post 17 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 14:49 |
smokinghot Super Member |
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On March 30, 2008 at 14:17, Helevitia said...
Then you can create a second macro.
Bottom line, you just hold down the power toggle button just like you would on the controller and it works the same, so it is a non-issue. Oh... so how do you propose to have one button perform two different macros that are supposed to be doing the same thing? Sounds like an issue to me. On March 30, 2008 at 14:19, Helevitia said...
Also, most people will use the ir2bt device for watching movies or browsing through the XMB menus. If you are playing a game, you will grab the controller and most likely power off with that anyway. Just my 2 cents. For the record. The only reason I've even posted in this thread is to inform you and any others that may read this, that the IR2BT is not a bullet proof solution. It has issues, however minor some may think they are. As long as you're aware, so be it. I was not trying to discourage you or push some other product. Best of Luck. It seems like a nice piece.
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Post 18 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 17:30 |
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On March 29, 2008 at 20:35, smokinghot said...
That's an argument I got into in the CI Lounge. It provides a very well done seamless work around for the lack of discrete power control. I don't believe it falls short in any other aspect of current PS3 control solutions. The developer uses the same mind set as everyone else in using PS2 IR code set and mapping them to the appropriate PS3 command: What this device does is mimic the PS3 controller through USB. Other devices (IR2BT, IR4PS3) control the PS3 through Bluetooth. For Blu-Ray playback, then, is every button that is on the Sony BT remote on the PS3 controller too?
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Post 19 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 18:24 |
smokinghot Super Member |
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On March 30, 2008 at 17:30, OTAHD said...
What this device does is mimic the PS3 controller through USB. Other devices (IR2BT, IR4PS3) control the PS3 through Bluetooth. That's the way I understand it. More direct button control with the BT remote mod solutions but no brian dead power control. Keep in mind though a lot of the PS3 remote functions are just duplicated. Check out Daniel's review: [Link: remotecentral.com]For Blu-Ray playback, then, is every button that is on the Sony BT remote on the PS3 controller too? I have not tried to nav all the BT's remote functions with the controller so I can't say. Although I do know that the basic shuttle controls are there. If there is a means to reach the coloured key functions (again I can't say) then it's a question of macro development. Which for rarely used functions isn't that big of an issue {ducking head...lol}.
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Post 20 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 21:49 |
Anthony Ultimate Member |
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Oh... so how do you propose to have one button perform two different macros that are supposed to be doing the same thing? Sounds like an issue to me. let's assume that we are talking a LCD remote off (jump to a page with up/down/OK when you press OK it sends the Ok (x) and the off macro for the rest :)
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OP | Post 21 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 23:30 |
On March 30, 2008 at 14:49, smokinghot said...
Oh... so how do you propose to have one button perform two different macros that are supposed to be doing the same thing? Sounds like an issue to me.
For the record. The only reason I've even posted in this thread is to inform you and any others that may read this, that the IR2BT is not a bullet proof solution. It has issues, however minor some may think they are. As long as you're aware, so be it. I was not trying to discourage you or push some other product.
Best of Luck. It seems like a nice piece. Hi smokinghot, I find it to be the ONLY solution available right now. All of the rest are half solutions or not available. I've read the review that Daniel put out, even emailed the gentlemen for updates. I have not received any emails for that solution. And in all honesty, that other solution where you mod the PS3 remote isn't really for me, but if that was the only thing out that supported all 51 commands, then that is what I would have bought. As it stands right now, there is still NO solution as the other one has been sold out for a while and you can't pre-order. So, I have to wait while more come back in stock or other solutions show up. And about the second macro, I am just talking about creating a new "off" button or whatever you want to call it, and putting that button on my Harmony One's touch screen. The more I think about it, I don't really need a macros I will just hold down the "toggle on/off" button, then manually, select the "turn off system" or "turn off game" just like I do now with the PS3 controller.
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Post 22 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 00:44 |
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On March 30, 2008 at 23:30, Helevitia said...
And in all honesty, that other solution where you mod the PS3 remote isn't really for me, but if that was the only thing out that supported all 51 commands, then that is what I would have bought. As it stands right now, there is still NO solution as the other one has been sold out for a while and you can't pre-order. So, I have to wait while more come back in stock or other solutions show up. If you dig a little I'm sure you'll find that the IR2BT is the same thing as the IR4PS3. The guts of a original sony BT remote, modified to accept IR and stuffed into a electronics project box.
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OP | Post 23 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 00:52 |
On March 31, 2008 at 00:44, smokinghot said...
If you dig a little I'm sure you'll find that the IR2BT is the same thing as the IR4PS3. The guts of a original sony BT remote, modified to accept IR and stuffed into a electronics project box. Sure, makes sense, probably if the IR4PS3 solution was orderable right now and the ir2bt wasn't, I'd order that one instead. And you are right, they both do the same thing really. It sure sounds like you either are the other guy or work for him or something like that. I'm not trying to single you out, but you are acting in a manner that makes me think that. And if you are, great! I would stick up for my product as well. If it is the same solution, then hurry up and come out with it so I can buy it! lol there are what, 10 million PS3 owners, so there is more than enough of this type of product to go around.
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Post 24 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 01:08 |
smokinghot Super Member |
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On March 31, 2008 at 00:52, Helevitia said...
It sure sounds like you either are the other guy or work for him or something like that. I'm not trying to single you out, but you are acting in a manner that makes me think that. Nope not at all. I think it comes down to a matter of personal preference. I for one rather have the solid, brain dead power down option than the ability to use the numbered and/or coloured keys found on the BT remote. That's just my choice. I did say earlier that I wasn't trying to push anyone's product, and I mean it. Sorry if you're getting a different impression concerning my postings in this thread. I was more a fan of the IR2BT type solution originally, but being an end user, I can live with a small eye sore the PS3IR+PWR creates on the PS3's face.
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Post 25 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 10:08 |
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On March 31, 2008 at 01:08, smokinghot said...
but being an end user, I can live with a small eye sore the PS3IR+PWR creates on the PS3's face. as another end user, i would NEVER be content seeing a wire and transmitter stuck to any of my devices (which is why i havent gone RF yet), and also why i think the link you provided is a terrible solution.
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Post 26 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 15:06 |
smokinghot Super Member |
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Think what you want...couldn't care less. I was just trying to help the OP get the facts on what he/she was considering a "solution", and the other options which are available. Which is a hell of a lot more than your constant bitching has done.
Your opinion is yours, and of course you're entitled to it, but really, unless you have something to add to the discussion (which you rarely do now a days) don't waste the bandwidth with your ranting.
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Post 27 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 15:36 |
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If I had a PS3, I'd probably accept the fact that I'd have to power it off manually. Such is life, it's not the first or last component to not have discretes.
I can't say I mind using emitters or anything either...they may not be the "cleanest" solution, but the other alternative is to actually point the remote...
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Post 28 made on Friday April 4, 2008 at 10:31 |
smokinghot Super Member |
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Depending on your motovation for buying the PS3IR+PWR, the option I suggested. Here's a tidbit of info that I just came across in the CI Lounge. Dinom is the man that introduced me to the PS3IR+PWR . On April 4, 2008 at 07:53, dinom said...
theKevin,
I wouldn't get too excited. With the latest firmware upgrade from Sony for the PS3 (version 2.2), the USB ports are no longer powered when in standby mode (even if you pair it with a PSP). This, in effect, disables the schmartz solution from being able to power on the PS3 via IR. I have the same unit, and it's useless now for power on. See the AVS forum thread for more details. Makes me wonder if Sony is actively trying to disable the solutions comsumers are developing.
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Post 29 made on Friday April 4, 2008 at 14:31 |
KrisRoberts Long Time Member |
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if you change Settings > Remote Play Settings > Remote Start to "On", the PS3 will shutdown into Wake-on-LAN mode. the Southbridge requires power in this mode, which means USB gets power and controllers will charge in this mode and you should be able to power the ir2bt or ps3IR+pwr or whatever. ---Edit--- Oops... people are reporting that the 2.2 update did kill this. I havent updated mine yet so I dont know for sure...
Last edited by KrisRoberts
on April 4, 2008 14:51.
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