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Ir to Bluetooth with all 51 PS3 commands - finally a solution!
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Post 1 made on Friday March 28, 2008 at 13:08
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Looks like somebody finally came out with a solution.

http://ir2bt.com/
Post 2 made on Friday March 28, 2008 at 15:37
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very cool... has anyone ordered one? does it work??
Post 3 made on Friday March 28, 2008 at 16:27
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i'm going to watch their boards on the site www.ir2bt.com for a while before I decide to put $60 on one. If people seem pleased I'll probably pick one up at the end of april.
Post 4 made on Friday March 28, 2008 at 17:37
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Last edited by smokinghot on March 28, 2008 17:48.
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Post 5 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 07:58
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Ya... but the PS button doesn't always shut down the PS3. The shut sequence varies depending if your watching a movie or playing a game. Unless there's something I'm missing with the IR2BT it cannot possibly know where it is in the OS, (no two way communication) therefore cannot reliably shut down the PS3

There is another option that seems to actually have work around control of the PS3 power. It's a flush mount USB dongle that has a small wire which is taped over the power button on the PS3 itself. The wire simulates the finger press of the capacitive power button, and will shut down the PS3 regardless of your location in the OS.

Link for the manufacturer's site:

[Link: schmartz.com]

A brief discussion can be found here:

[Link: remotecentral.com]
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Post 6 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 13:47
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On March 29, 2008 at 07:58, smokinghot said...
Ya... but the PS button doesn't always shut down the PS3.

this is SUCH a non-issue to me... you cant do it with the current remote so WTF do i care that this new device cant do it either?

i realize there are FREAKS out there that EVERYTHING has to be accomplished with a single macro. but lets face it, its an OCD (obbsesive compulsive disorder), so WTF are we trying to accomidate them for??

and i'm so sick of "but granny cant figure out how to work the home theatre so every macro has to be bullet proof"... then granny (or your stupid kids or your stupid wife- whoever the idiot in your house is that cant grasp the concept of powering on/off a device) has NO business touching the home theatre.

let me guess... your wife would NEVER alow you to purchase expensive electronics then tell s/one in the house they cant use it!! well then your wife is a stunned c*nt.

rant over.

(for the record only the 1st sentence was aimed at you smoking)

Last edited by Stealth X on March 29, 2008 13:53.
Post 7 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 15:48
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On March 29, 2008 at 13:47, Stealth X said...
this is SUCH a non-issue to me... you cant do it with
the current remote so WTF do i care that this new device
cant do it either?


i realize there are FREAKS out there that EVERYTHING has
to be accomplished with a single macro. but lets face
it, its an OCD (obbsesive compulsive disorder), so WTF
are we trying to accomidate them for??

and i'm so sick of "but granny cant figure out how to
work the home theatre so every macro has to be bullet
proof"... then granny (or your stupid kids or your stupid
wife- whoever the idiot in your house is that cant grasp
the concept of powering on/off a device) has NO business
touching the home theatre.


let me guess... your wife would NEVER alow you to purchase
expensive electronics then tell s/one in the house they
cant use it!! well then your wife is a stunned c*nt.

rant over.

(for the record only the 1st sentence was aimed at you
smoking)

Wow.... :>/ Bay day Stealth...?

I hear ya, but to explain my post, and the only reason I bother with these "PS3 complete IR control" threads is just to help stop people from buying solutions that don't actually do what they claim. Even this IR2BT says it has complete on and off control. Which isn't a total lie but misleading to the masses I would think. I'm just trying to help educate J6P.....(which if I remember correctly someone accused me of never doing here on RC...lol)

Personally I like the option I linked to. Of course it helps that I'm not a pro and have to consider aesthetics of my install. Considering it's cheaper and already has end users giving feedback. I'd be more comfortable with it I think.

FYI Stealth... next time maybe put your bracketed detail near the beginning. I couldn't grasp why you were attacking me.... ;)

P.S: the part I put in brackets was aimed directly at you...lmao
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Post 8 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 18:09
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It's complete IR control in the sense that it allows you to establish IR control over every function that exists.

However, the PS3 doesn't have discretes, just like a ton of other stuff out there. But at $600, there's no reason it shouldn't have discretes.

Smokinghot, the thing you linked looks interesting, and it does offer discrete control, but I'm getting the impression that other than discrete control it offers nothing more than the Nyko thing or dongle solution.
LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!
Post 9 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 20:35
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On March 29, 2008 at 18:09, OTAHD said...
It's complete IR control in the sense that it allows you
to establish IR control over every function that exists.

If it was put in that manner than I obviously wouldn't have anything to say. Unfortunately in every PS3 solution sales pitch I've read someone at one time or another claims on (which is easy) and off control. And never mentions the fine print...I'm just making an effort to help those impulse buyers out there.


Smokinghot, the thing you linked looks interesting, and
it does offer discrete control, but I'm getting the impression
that other than discrete control it offers nothing more
than the Nyko thing or dongle solution.

That's an argument I got into in the CI Lounge. It provides a very well done seamless work around for the lack of discrete power control. I don't believe it falls short in any other aspect of current PS3 control solutions. The developer uses the same mind set as everyone else in using PS2 IR code set and mapping them to the appropriate PS3 command:

4th paragraph explaining features: [Link: avsforum.com]

Only thing that bothers me about it is the type of wire used to spoof the power button. I wonder if it could be swapped out for a flat piece of ribbon wire, with a glossy black sticker running it's length to the back....that would be much cleaner.
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OP | Post 10 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 14:00
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On March 29, 2008 at 07:58, smokinghot said...
Ya... but the PS button doesn't always shut down the PS3.
The shut sequence varies depending if your watching a
movie or playing a game. Unless there's something I'm
missing with the IR2BT it cannot possibly know where it
is in the OS, (no two way communication) therefore cannot
reliably shut down the PS3

There is another option that seems to actually have work
around control of the PS3 power. It's a flush mount USB
dongle that has a small wire which is taped over the power
button on the PS3 itself. The wire simulates the finger
press of the capacitive power button, and will shut down
the PS3 regardless of your location in the OS.

Link for the manufacturer's site:

[Link: schmartz.com]

A brief discussion can be found here:

[Link: remotecentral.com]

Check out this video of the remote in action. Looks like the PS button works fine to me. I'm willing to bet it works for shutting down in game as well.

feature=related

I will buy one as soon as they have them in stock again.
OP | Post 11 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 14:04
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FYI - Here is the answer to all of our questions about the PS button that I found on the ir2bt forums:

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The Sony PS2 IR code for PowerToggle is directly mapped to the PS3 BlueTooth code for the PS button. So anytime you need to use the PS button on the PS3 you'll be pressing the PowerToggle button on your IR remote. If you hold down the PowerToggle button on your IR remote, it sends the same BlueTooth command as if you were holding down the PS button. PowerToggle (IR) = PS (Bluetooth). I hope this answers your question.

Bruce...
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OP | Post 12 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 14:09
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One more cool thing I found and since I like to keep good info all in one place, here is something that many will find invaluable:

6 step macro for powering off PS3:

"Power Toggle" (Tap only), "Down", "Down", "Power Toggle" (hold for 3 Sec)", "X", "X"
Post 13 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 14:09
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Helevitia,

When you can, fire up a movie in your PS3 and try the PS button on your controller. Now try it again while playing a game and write back describing how it functions.
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Post 14 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 14:10
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On March 30, 2008 at 14:09, Helevitia said...
One more cool thing I found and since I like to keep good
info all in one place, here is something that many will
find invaluable:

6 step macro for powering off PS3:

"Power Toggle" (Tap only), "Down", "Down", "Power Toggle"
(hold for 3 Sec)", "X", "X"

This changes depending what you are doing with the PS3. eg:watching a movie or playing a game.
....Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
OP | Post 15 made on Sunday March 30, 2008 at 14:17
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Then you can create a second macro.

Bottom line, you just hold down the power toggle button just like you would on the controller and it works the same, so it is a non-issue.
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