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Is the wall starting to crack?
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Post 1 made on Thursday October 18, 2007 at 09:01
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An interesting article.



Sony to sell PS3 chip production lines to Toshiba

By Reuters
[Link: news.com]

Story last modified Thu Oct 18 05:39:25 PDT 2007


In an effort to focus more intently on core operations, Sony will sell its production facilities for making microprocessors and graphics chips used in its PlayStation 3 game console to Toshiba.
The price and other details have yet to be set, Sony said on Thursday, but sources familiar with the transaction say the price is likely to be in excess of $858 million.

Despite the planned sale of the manufacturing facilities for key PlayStation 3 chips, its video game operations remain one of Sony's core businesses, Sony spokesman Daichi Yamafuji said.

The electronics and entertainment conglomerate plans to sell to Toshiba its Cell microprocessor production facility in Nagasaki prefecture and RSX graphic chip production line in Oita prefecture, both in western Japan, by March 2008.

Sony also said it would cooperate with International Business Machines in developing the next-generation Cell chip--part of a strategy to advance development of the key PS3 engine while cutting exposure to costly microchip assets.

Developing more-advanced and less costly PS3 chips is critical for Sony's loss-making game business because cutting-edge components of the console, including its Cell chip and Blu-ray high-definition DVD player, have driven up the price for buyers, dampening demand.

Sony, which also offers Cyber-shot digital cameras, Vaio PCs, and Bravia flat TVs, said in February it would cut back on chip spending and might not produce an advanced version of Cell chips with 45-nanometer circuitry in-house.

A nanometer is one-billionth of a meter.

Narrower circuitry makes the size of a chip smaller and helps manufacturers cut per-chip production costs.

But finer circuitry also means heavier initial investments for microchip makers as costs for chip-making equipment balloon.

Toshiba, Sony, and Sony Computer Entertainment--Sony's video game unit--plan to set up a joint venture next April to run the Nagasaki facility that will be sold to Toshiba.


Sony's PS3 has lagged behind Nintendo's Wii in sales since their launches late last year due to the Sony machine's high price and scarcity of strong game titles, weighing on its group-wide earnings.

Sony, which is in the final year of its three-year turnaround plan under Chief Executive Howard Stringer, has been shedding its noncore assets aggressively.

Earlier this year it cut its stake in online broker Monex Beans Holdings, and last year sold interests in a wide range of retail activities such as cosmetics and restaurants.

Before the announcement, shares in Sony closed up 0.6 percent at 5,430 yen, while Toshiba lost 0.2 percent to 1,015 yen, underperforming the Tokyo stock market's electrical machinery index which rose 1.05 percent
Post 2 made on Saturday October 20, 2007 at 16:54
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Why did they feel the need to expand IBM - which everyone knows - to "International Business Machines"?
Post 3 made on Saturday October 20, 2007 at 17:58
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I think a better story is the lower price of the PS3 with BlueRay, and how the possible Xbox with built-in HD-DVD drive will heat up or burn out the HD media contest.

Show me a PS3 for another $100 cheaper ($299) and I may get one just for the BlueRay player.
Post 4 made on Sunday October 21, 2007 at 12:17
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Is the wall starting to crack?

I guess so. It looks like Toshiba thinks it is smarter to spend money to make parts for BD players then continue wasting money on a subpar format :) while Sony will now have more money to spend on BD
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Post 5 made on Sunday October 21, 2007 at 12:27
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and how the possible Xbox with built-in HD-DVD drive will heat up or burn out the HD media contest.

I would wait until a MS announcement. Back in 2005 before the 360 launched there were many rumours that it will have an HD DVD player until it came out (and even then some where trying to convince others that it would be upgradeable to HD DVD). When the rumours on the elite started it was heavily rumoured that it will have HD DVD but it did not. I just see these rumours for what they are the delusional high hopes of HD DVD fan boys. "things will change soon and HD DVD will reverse its constant and massive loss because of ______". _____ in this case is the rumoured 360 HD DVD.


MS is interested in DL and gaining a foothold in the LR. They don't care about HD DVD (or loosing too much money on it) so their support of it is all about stagnating HD sales so that BD does not win and DL get pushed back.
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OP | Post 6 made on Monday October 22, 2007 at 14:41
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On October 21, 2007 at 12:17, Anthony said...
I guess so. It looks like Toshiba thinks it is smarter
to spend money to make parts for BD players then continue
wasting money on a subpar format :) while Sony will now
have more money to spend on BD

Some people read only what they want to see.
That said, the sale of Sony's "cell microprocessor" facility has zero to do the Blu-ray ;>)
Post 7 made on Monday October 22, 2007 at 16:43
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On October 21, 2007 at 12:17, Anthony said...
I guess so. It looks like Toshiba thinks it is smarter
to spend money to make parts for BD players then continue
wasting money on a subpar format :) while Sony will now
have more money to spend on BD

kind of like we waste our time reading your sub-par posts!! haha

you do realize you fall more into the "fanboy" catagory than ANY other poster from ANY other site i've ever posted at. you are literally worse than the HALO fanboys (average age 10yrs old) from xbox.com!! LOL!!! (its funny because its true)

seriously dude, stop making an ass of yourself, i feel embarassed for you.
Post 8 made on Monday October 22, 2007 at 21:48
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don't come here I won't have to read you7r moronic post and you won't have to read anything intelligent.
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Post 9 made on Tuesday October 23, 2007 at 08:59
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word to the wise, when insulting someones intelligence online, DO A SPELL CHECK BEFORE HITTING SUBMIT!!! LOL!!!
Post 10 made on Tuesday October 23, 2007 at 09:53
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On October 22, 2007 at 21:48, Anthony said...
don't come here I won't have to read you7r moronic post
and you won't have to read anything intelligent.

That is funny coming from you. An intelligent post is not your strong suit.
A structured sentence and spelling isn't either.
Post 11 made on Wednesday October 24, 2007 at 23:52
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do all morons travel in packs ? just curious why when one of you twits posts soon after someone else posts with something equally stupid. Is it that you are all in the same asylum or is it that you all have the same hobby (and judging by Stealth X who likes to hang around sites for preadolescent boys, something like pedophilia and so during school time you pass by here)
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Post 12 made on Thursday October 25, 2007 at 10:12
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On October 24, 2007 at 23:52, Anthony said...
do all morons travel in packs ? just curious why when
one of you twits posts soon after someone else posts with
something equally stupid. Is it that you are all in the
same asylum or is it that you all have the same hobby
(and judging by Stealth X who likes to hang around sites
for preadolescent boys, something like pedophilia and
so during school time you pass by here)

wow, really scraping the bottom of the barrell for insults now arent you?

at least you've come to the realization no one buys a bit of the technical garbage that you make up off the top of your head.

i've cut and paste your last post onto a word doc so i can post it after everyone of your future posts. this way no one will be fooled into thinking they are dealing with a grown man of any integrity or intelligence.

honestly its quite disturbing that you make such disgusting accusations out of nowhere, is that somehow funny to you? from a father of four with 2 sons i dont find that the least bit humorous. seems you have some pretty nasty filth on your mind, and frankly i think you need some serious help.
Post 13 made on Sunday October 28, 2007 at 22:32
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I am not the one talking about 10 year old boys
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