Looking for one for the few times a year I need to do it. Need to save the codes to hex format for importing into URC, RTI etc.

The RTI is a good one, and a couple are currently on ebay. IR-PRO.

For a bargain, get a Pronto 1000 or 2000, or an Onkyo CHAD and use it as a learner with Pronto software (can be found here on RC).

I have a Pronto but its a pain to use. Might have to break down and pickup a RTI from my distributor.

If you are OK with a soldering iron this works great with IrScrutinizer:
[Link: harctoolbox.org]
Parts to build it should cost less than $20.

The version of IrScrutinizer in the Remote Central file area is way out of date. Go here for more information:
[Link: harctoolbox.org]

What would be the difference between that and the IR Toy?

At this point I am not sure. There were some firmware issues with IrToy when used with IrScrutinizer but they may have been resolved.
Best to ask Bengt Martensson aka "Barf", the author IrScruntinizer, over on the JP1 forum:
[Link: hifi-remote.com]

He says this about the IrToy in his IrScrutinizer documentation "The ending timeout for receive is 1.4 seconds, and cannot be changed. This is not optimal for most IR signal capture use cases."
But this may or may not still be the case so probably best to ask him.

Thanks!

I am here too!

The IrToy is a good piece of hardware, The 1.4 seconds delay is an annoyance, no more, no less. Your brain tends to go "I just pressed a button, why did not anything happen?.... Oh, now it shows up". Confusing, but you will get used to it. Use the IrToy firmware 2.2 (or the inofficial "2.4").

On my "wishlist" is to port my firmware to the IrToy [Link: github.com] ...

I dug out my IrToyv2 yesterday and updated it to 2.2 to compare it to my Girs client. I tested a couple of signals from a Harmony remote (a Roku and a Tivo) on 2 different computers. The Girs client seemed to give more consistent results than the IrToy but I don't know if it matters.

I have a copy of IrToy firmware labeled v23-test 1 if it is of any use.

Can IrScrutinizer generate a combo signal like Roku uses?

Here are my results for what it's worth:

Roku Home command

IrToy computer 1
protocol = NEC, device = 234, subdevice = 194, obc = 3 plus
protocol = NEC, device = 234, subdevice = 194, obc = 131
frequency = 41557
0000 0064 0044 0000 0172 00BE 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 067D 0172 00BE 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 001A 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 0048 0015 001A 0015 E2F3

IrToy computer 2
protocol = NEC, device = 234, subdevice = 194, obc = 3 plus
protocol = NEC, device = 234, subdevice = 194, obc = 131
frequency = 41365
0000 0064 0044 0000 0170 00BC 0015 0015 0015 0047 0015 0019 0015 0047 0015 0015 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0019 0015 0047 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0676 0170 00BC 0015 0019 0015 0047 0015 0019 0015 0047 0015 0019 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0019 0015 0047 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0015 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0047 0015 0015 0015 0019 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0047 0015 0019 0015 E1E7

Girs client computer 1
protocol = NEC, device = 234, subdevice = 194, obc = 3 plus
protocol = NEC, device = 234, subdevice = 194, obc = 131
frequency = 38461
0000 006C 0044 0000 0159 00AF 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0577 0159 00AF 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0577

Girs client computer 2
protocol = NEC, device = 234, subdevice = 194, obc = 3 plus
protocol = NEC, device = 234, subdevice = 194, obc = 131
frequency = 38461
0000 006C 0044 0000 0159 00AE 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0577 0159 00AE 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0042 0015 0015 0015 0577


Tivo Tivo command

IrToy computer 1
protocol = Tivo unit=0, device = 133, subdevice = 48, obc = 13
frequency = 40920
0000 0065 0024 0000 016C 00BD 0015 0046 0015 0019 0015 0046 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0046 0015 0019 0015 0015 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0046 0015 0046 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0046 0015 0019 0015 0046 0015 0046 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0046 0015 0046 0015 0046 0015 0046 0015 0726 016C 005E 0015 DF7A

IrToy computer 2
protocol = Tivo unit=0, device = 133, subdevice = 48, obc = 13
frequency = 40744
0000 0066 0024 0000 016B 00B9 0015 0045 0015 0019 0015 0045 0015 0015 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0015 0015 0045 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0045 0015 0045 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0045 0015 0019 0015 0045 0015 0045 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0015 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0045 0015 0045 0015 0045 0015 0045 0015 071E 016B 005D 0015 DE83

Girs client computer 1
protocol = Tivo unit=0, device = 133, subdevice = 48, obc = 13
frequency = 38461
0000 006C 0024 0000 0159 00AE 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 06B7 0159 0057 0015 04EC

Girs client computer 2
protocol = Tivo unit=0, device = 133, subdevice = 48, obc = 13
frequency = 38461
0000 006C 0024 0000 0158 00AE 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 06B6 0158 0057 0015 04EC

Interesting. Notable is that the IrToy frequency measurements appear to be off. Possibly you can try with the remote held closer to the 'toy; the non-demodulating sensor (QSE159) should be used in cm/inch distance.


I found v23 unusable, see [Link: dangerousprototypes.com]


Yes, it can, but it is not entirely trivial. You have to define a new protocol in IrpProtocols.ini (or a private version thereof). For your case, this entry will do it:


[protocol]
name=NEC-double
irp={38.4k,564}<1,-1|1,-3>(16,-8,D:8,S:8,F:8,~F:8,1,^108m,16,-8,D:8,S:8,F1:8,~F1:8,1,^108m) [D:0..255,S:0..255=255-D,F:0..255,F1:0..255]

you will have to assign F1 to the last parameter (131 in your example).

Thanks Barf
Distance doesn't seem to be the problem with the IrToy. At <1 cm I still get a different frequency with every capture varying as much as 20k.
With your design frequency is very consistent from one capture to the next. Time to put the IrToy back in the drawer and forget about it.

Can't argue on that ;-). The IrToy seems to be quite dead for DangerousPrototypes anyway,,,

Nice that you have had good experience with my firmware. I do not take all the credit, the main algorithm for the capture was written by Michael Dreher, see [Link: hifi-remote.com] and links therein.