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I haven't been here in a long long time, where do we know generate discrete codes from.
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Post 1 made on Saturday April 2, 2016 at 16:53
bent
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I used to use the pronto neo, and a convoluted conversion program. The neo is no-more.
What is used to generate discrete codes to teach to a learning remote now?
Post 2 made on Saturday April 2, 2016 at 19:21
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I guess... what is your planned learning remote? Most computer-programmed remotes can take discrete codes natively.
OP | Post 3 made on Sunday April 3, 2016 at 13:41
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I'm still using my mx 500's, I can't find a list of all the discrete a Logitech has available (if I could, I'd consider one).
It seems as though I need to buy one before I can find a list of discrete they make available.
Post 4 made on Sunday April 3, 2016 at 15:48
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Doesn't matter. Just email any missing codes to support and they will add to your account. Or just learn them from your old remote.
OP | Post 5 made on Sunday April 3, 2016 at 17:29
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I can't use an old remote for discrete so, oem never had discrete input selections, I could only scroll through them.
Post 6 made on Sunday April 3, 2016 at 17:49
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Then go with the first option I posted, emailing the codes if they are missing. Most discretes are in the Harmony database already, but there are exceptions. The only way to get a list is to find a friend with a Harmony and have them add your devices.

If you post the make/model of your devices, I can tell you if discretes exist. I'm not going to load them into my Harmony though.

Another option is to use a JP1 remote for teaching discretes. If you have cable TV, you probably already own a JP1 remote. It can be used to teach every possible discrete command for every device. If you don't have a JP1 remote, you can buy one for under $5.

I just read your first post. IR Scrutinizer is the best way to generate discrete codes these days. A JP1 remote is the cheapest way to teach them (no code generation required).

In any case, I'm still a little confused. You never added any discretes to your old MX-500's? If not, what do you lose by switching to Harmony? If you did add them, then you could use the MX-500 to teach your new Harmony.

Last edited by mdavej on April 3, 2016 18:28.
OP | Post 7 made on Monday April 4, 2016 at 09:37
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I have two Samsung tv's, I can't recall their model numbers - but one is a 600 series lcd and one is a 400 series lcd.
I have discrete inputs for component 1, and component 2 input for each programmed into the mx 500's, and I have an old radio shack JP-1 capable remote (but no jp1 cable).
I thought it was a pronto neo, but it was a boston tsu501
[Link: remotecentral.com]
I used this method previously to derive the discrete input selections, but the Boston TSU501 died and was disposed of.
Post 8 made on Monday April 4, 2016 at 16:11
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You're all set then. If necessary, make new codes with IR Scrutinizer or learn from your MX. You don't need a cable for teaching more Samsung codes from a radio shack JP1 remote. 99% chance the codes are already in the Harmony database anyway.

What additional discretes do you need for the TVs?
Post 9 made on Monday April 4, 2016 at 22:13
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I think your best bet is to try to pick up a used Harmony on eBay to teach your MX500s. I use a 550 for doing just that. A 650 just sold for C$11.69 plus $15.00 shipping from Montreal.

Last edited by Dundas on April 4, 2016 22:23.
OP | Post 10 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 09:14
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I see a Harmony 520 on-line for 20 bucks, and a Harmony 650 for 35...
Is the support for these older units still available from Logitech now?
(Can I register them through the logitech website and load the commands?)
Post 11 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 11:34
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"Support" is a bit of a stretch. The 520 is long out of warranty and uses the older software. You can still email codes to [email protected] to add commands. It still does share the same database as the latest remotes. However, I would avoid it since the vol and chan buttons wear out quickly on the 5xx series (probably are already worn out if you're buying used).

The 650 is still a current model and uses the latest software. I would recommend that one over the 520. The buttons are also more reliable in my experience.

If you're not married to the idea of a Harmony, the Nevo C2 is a far better remote and far cheaper at $16 on ebay. It does 18 devices versus 8 on the 650, has a bigger/better display with more functions and can import pronto hex codes directly, no support required. The software is also much better. I've been using them for years and have about 20, so I know just about everything there is to know about them. I also have a couple of 650s and 520s in my closet, unused, if that tells you anything.

Here's some more info on the Nevo:
[Link: hifi-remote.com]

and an ebay search:
[Link: ebay.com]
Post 12 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 11:56
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Yes they support older remotes and yes you will be able to download and use the desktop software or smartphone app.
Post 13 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 13:51
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Smartphone app with a 520 or 650? Please elaborate.
Post 14 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 15:20
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I stand corrected on the smartphone apps for older remotes but I expect that that is a moot point.
All he wants to do is use the Harmony to teach the codes to his MX500s not to use it as an everyday remote. I use a 550 for that purpose.


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