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Post 1 made on Monday June 30, 2014 at 15:34
lucaslima_
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I have the code for IR control, I want to edit it and create a discrete ... anyone know how?
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Post 2 made on Monday June 30, 2014 at 18:57
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On June 30, 2014 at 15:34, lucaslima_ said...
I have the code for IR control, I want to edit it and create a discrete ... anyone know how?

It doesn't really work that way.

Here is a bit of a write up on A VERSION of trying to find discrete codes. The comments also suggest an alternative way using some of the same programs, but different hardware.

[Link: remotecentral.com]

Here's a little more info:

Hex format is simply the numeric visual representation of the Infrared signal on the computer.

hex codes and pronto hex codes generally mean the same thing. Pronto was really the first remote to give you the numeric visual representation way back in 1998. There are other versions of hex codes, but on this site, you will find pronto hex codes, basically hex codes in pronto format. This is good because basically everything out there (most remote control programs, automation software, and mobile remote apps) understands pronto hex codes.

Discrete codes have to do with a category of codes. For instance, if you pick up your TV remote at home, it probably has a big "power" button up top. We would refer to this as a "toggle" button or toggle power. It tells your TV to go into the opposite state it is currently in. So if it is off, and you press power, it goes on. Understand?

A discrete code will tell a device to go into a specific state, no matter what state it is currently in. So if I have a button labeled "on" like my receiver remote has, it will power on when I push it, whether it is on or off. Because the equipment is generally smart enough to know what state it itself is currently in, if it is on, it will ignore the on command. Does this make sense?

As a custom integrator, discrete codes are valuable because we need to be able to always know the state a device is in in order to properly automate it. Imagine I have a remote control code that opens curtains in from of a theater screen. What if I only had a button called "move curtains" (or something of the like), I would never know if the curtains were opening or closing, and my client would get angry at me because they had to fix it manually. A discrete code like "open curtains" and "close curtains" makes much more sense. However, not all devices have discrete codes, and not all devices accept discrete codes.
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Post 3 made on Monday June 30, 2014 at 18:57
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What is the brand and model number of the device you are trying to control? What is the discrete function you are looking for?
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OP | Post 4 made on Tuesday July 1, 2014 at 13:21
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I do not want a certain outfit, I know how to create discrete codes without relying on search ... understand me?
Lucas Lima
Post 5 made on Tuesday July 1, 2014 at 15:21
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On July 1, 2014 at 13:21, lucaslima_ said...
I do not want a certain outfit, I know how to create discrete codes without relying on search ... understand me?

No. I don't understand.

Are you making the circuit board that is sending the IR code and the circuit board receiving it? If not, you cannot make a discrete code.

Your device either understands discrete codes or it doesn't. Or your device may not even have discrete codes available.

What code are you looking for?
What are you trying to accomplish / get your device to do?
What is the brand / model number of your device?

It's possible using the collective wisdom and knowledge of this forum that someone already has the code you need.
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OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday July 2, 2014 at 15:24
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wanted discrete codes hdmi 1,2,3,4,5 60W855B Sony TV?
Lucas Lima
OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday July 2, 2014 at 15:26
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tested
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Post 8 made on Wednesday July 2, 2014 at 21:56
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Try downloading free Code Manager software from public downloads area of commbox.com.au. Although it is intended for use with our systems, it comes with a huge library that includes discretes, can read and write Pronto Hex and it allows you to easily create your own codes, given you know the hex or binary data. It stops you from making codes that would be illegal (i.e. not fit the format of the rest of the codes in the set) and there is a manual that contains collected wisdom on IR codes from IR code experience that dates back to the late 1970s!

The big difference with Code Manager is it displays IR codes as waveforms, allowing you to see exactly what is happening.

BTW, this software was originally written for CPM, then DOS, 16 bit Windows and now 32 bit Windows so that's how far back it goes!
Post 9 made on Thursday July 3, 2014 at 08:14
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On July 2, 2014 at 21:56, ianrob said...
Try downloading free Code Manager software from public downloads area of commbox.com.au. Although it is intended for use with our systems, it comes with a huge library that includes discretes, can read and write Pronto Hex and it allows you to easily create your own codes, given you know the hex or binary data. It stops you from making codes that would be illegal (i.e. not fit the format of the rest of the codes in the set) and there is a manual that contains collected wisdom on IR codes from IR code experience that dates back to the late 1970s!

The big difference with Code Manager is it displays IR codes as waveforms, allowing you to see exactly what is happening.

BTW, this software was originally written for CPM, then DOS, 16 bit Windows and now 32 bit Windows so that's how far back it goes!

When you say "Create your own codes" do you mean generate a hex code based on a series of rules (ie: the known infrared protocol such as Sony15, Sharp, NEC1, etc.)

I don't know why he didn't just ask for discrete codes for Sony TVs. They are only among the most wildly available codes anywhere. We could have wrapped up this thread long ago.

I am partial to IRScrutinizer myself for code generation, but I will check out your link as well. Thanks for the tip!
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