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Denon AVR-X Series Codes
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Post 16 made on Sunday July 13, 2014 at 20:10
distox
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Thank you SysI (may I call you SysI) for all you help. While I can sort of follow what you said on your last post, you knowledge far outranks my understanding of the code structure. However, the 4 codes above do not work with my X4000. Searching the net for codes, I came across these that do work for Sub 2...

SUBWOOFER 2 LEVEL UP
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

SUBWOOFER 2 LEVEL DOWN
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

While, they are only slightly different, I do not understand the difference, therefore could not try to mode this code to do both subs. Maybe you could?
OP | Post 17 made on Sunday July 13, 2014 at 23:22
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On July 13, 2014 at 20:10, distox said...
Thank you SysI (may I call you SysI) for all you help. While I can sort of follow what you said on your last post, you knowledge far outranks my understanding of the code structure. However, the 4 codes above do not work with my X4000. Searching the net for codes, I came across these that do work for Sub 2...

SUBWOOFER 2 LEVEL UP
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

SUBWOOFER 2 LEVEL DOWN
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

While, they are only slightly different, I do not understand the difference, therefore could not try to mode this code to do both subs. Maybe you could?

Really, the cross-learned codes from the Harmony should work, but they are nasty learns in my opinion.  I actually posted the wrong code above.  I inadvertently was working from the x3000 protocol sheet and not the x4000.  I see my error.  I am modifying the post above to avoid further confusion.  Again, thanks for the good catch.  As I do not have this receiver in front of me, some of this has been guess work. 
0101001101111001011100110100100101101110011101000110010101100111011100100110000101110100011010010110111101101110
OP | Post 18 made on Sunday July 13, 2014 at 23:31
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On July 13, 2014 at 23:22, SysIntegration said...
Really, the cross-learned codes from the Harmony should work, but they are nasty learns in my opinion.  I actually posted the wrong code above.  I inadvertently was working from the x3000 protocol sheet and not the x4000.  I see my error.  I am modifying the post above to avoid further confusion.  Again, thanks for the good catch.  As I do not have this receiver in front of me, some of this has been guess work. 

Also, can you link where you found your codes. It would have been easier for me to have worked backwards from a known working code, because then I realized how I misinterpreted the original data sheets.
0101001101111001011100110100100101101110011101000110010101100111011100100110000101110100011010010110111101101110
Post 19 made on Monday July 14, 2014 at 06:23
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They come from batpigworld. The page with the raw codes is [Link: batpigworld.com] and the page that has Harmony information is [Link: batpigworld.com]. I hope this helps...
OP | Post 20 made on Monday July 14, 2014 at 08:52
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On July 14, 2014 at 06:23, distox said...
They come from batpigworld. The page with the raw codes is [Link: batpigworld.com] and the page that has Harmony information is [Link: batpigworld.com]. I hope this helps...

post 15 should be what you are looking for.
0101001101111001011100110100100101101110011101000110010101100111011100100110000101110100011010010110111101101110
Post 21 made on Monday July 14, 2014 at 14:14
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The new codes work but only controls sub1 and not both subs simultaneously.
OP | Post 22 made on Monday July 14, 2014 at 18:35
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On July 14, 2014 at 14:14, distox said...
The new codes work but only controls sub1 and not both subs simultaneously.

Somewhere in the mix, I guess I got lost understanding what code you are looking for.

Have you looked at the protocol sheet?

[Link: awe-europe.com]

The code you want does not exist.

You can turn up/down SUB1 and SUB2 discretely, like you can turn up/down the level of any other speaker discretely. Most receivers have a function in the menu for levels of each speaker; this receiver happens to have discrete codes for each one.

However, just like there isn't a code to turn up/down the FL/FR levels at the same time, there isn't a code to turn up/down the two subs at the same time.

These are levels that are meant to be set one time, either with a calibration microphone, by an SPL meter, or by someone who can do it by ear. You set the level, then you turn all the speakers up/down with the master volume.

I'm not going to tell you how to control your gear or how to do an installation, but I can assure you that the sub (or any other channel) level was not meant as a volume control (or volume limiter). If you are using it this way, great, but that is not the design. In fact, this is why basically every sub on the market has its own v/c somewhere on the unit. You set the level gain, then you control all speakers together. This is how you keep things uniform and even so that one speaker doesn't over power the other.

Maybe you have a soundtrack or music that you want a little more/less bass. Walk over to the sub and adjust the knob accordingly. If that isn't going to work for you, then find a sub you can control through IR or RS232. I assure you, they exist.

If you absolutely want to use the Sub Level +/- in the receiver as a volume control and want it to control both subs, then buy a male/2-female y-splitter and split the signal to the subs. If you somehow think that this is going to limit your preamp signal (more than your on the fly level conversion is already doing, assuming your receiver is even driving more than a couple volts at full volume), then buy a line output converter and ramp up the output voltage of your sub output preamp, split it, send it to both subs, then use your IR code to control both. Though I can't imagine a situation where this would be necessary. Maybe if you were driving high end speakers/sub and needed that extra preamp voltage, but to be honest, if that is the case, get a better receiver than the x series you can pick up for sub ~$1200 on Crutchfield or Amazon. (I'm not knocking the receiver, but I am being realistic about its abilities. Plus, if I were billing by the hour for code search and support.....)

If this whole thing sounds convoluted and like a terrible idea, it's because it is not a great one. It is a solution for what you want to do with your system, which I am having a lot of trouble wrapping my head around.

The only other reason I could imagine you are doing this is some type of night mode function where you want to tone down the subs when watching late at night. There is not a specific night mode, but there are plenty of sound fields or codes for dynamic range control and etc. Good luck with whatever you decide.

In terms of hex, what you want doesn't exist.
0101001101111001011100110100100101101110011101000110010101100111011100100110000101110100011010010110111101101110
Post 23 made on Wednesday July 16, 2014 at 05:42
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First of all, I want to thank you for all the time and effort you put in for hunting the code I wanted. I am sorry to hear it is not available. The reason I thought the code existed is that there is a menu item for it in the X4000. You are right about calibration. Once it is set up, it should be rarely changed and that I never feel the need to change it when I watch a Blu-Ray movie. However, network and cable TV content sound mix varies tremendously, specially older movies or music shows. That is were I feel the need to boost or cut the base. My old Onkyo receiver had a quick menu where it was easy to change sub and center levels and would revert back to default when shut of. The X4000 lacks in many such features, but that is a discussion for another thread. I will add the 4 button solution to my remote.
Post 24 made on Monday August 11, 2014 at 14:23
Craig Aguiar-Winter
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If you havn't found a code to increase or decrease the level of both, could you just create a macro on a button to issue both codes?

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Post 25 made on Friday August 22, 2014 at 07:56
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Any Chance to get the codes for Zone 2 and Zone 3?
OP | Post 26 made on Saturday August 23, 2014 at 12:12
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On August 22, 2014 at 07:56, Knightwing said...
Any Chance to get the codes for Zone 2 and Zone 3?

[Link: awe-europe.com]

[Link: files.remotecentral.com]
0101001101111001011100110100100101101110011101000110010101100111011100100110000101110100011010010110111101101110
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