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hdmi Discrete codes for VSX-92 (LX60 UK Model)?
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Post 1 made on Monday September 8, 2008 at 20:55
Seanb88
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Hi Guys

I’m looking for discrete codes for the hdmi 1, 2, 3 and 4 inputs for this receiver. I’ve looked on the Pioneer site in the Custom install section but only seen a PDF which shows codes like this:

Hdmi 1: A55E+A5CA

What are they and how do I get these into my 9400?

Thanks in advance :)
Post 2 made on Tuesday September 9, 2008 at 12:32
NSP01
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Can you use the VSX-92 ccf that is in the Pronto area at pioneercustom.com?
If not, look at the SC-09TX IR & Hex Codes list. HDMI 1 - 6 is listed with Pronto Hex.
They call me the "Thread Killer". Just watch!
OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday September 9, 2008 at 13:35
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Thanks, I didn’t realise they were ccf files on the Pioneer site because I was using a Mac to download them and the file just opened up a window full of random code so I’ll boot the Mac into windows and try downloading the file there.
OP | Post 4 made on Tuesday September 9, 2008 at 21:26
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Im still stuck. Im using PE2 and you cant import a ccf file directly into PE2. You have to use PE1 first and then open it in PE2. So Ive done that but where are the codes? All I get is a bunch of buttons on a screen? Confused.
Post 5 made on Tuesday September 9, 2008 at 22:00
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HDMI 1 A55E+A5CA

0000 0068 0000 0044 0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 06d9 0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 06d9

HDMI 2 A55E+A5CB

0000 0068 0000 0044 0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 06d9 0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 06d9

HDMI 3 A55E+A5CC

0000 0068 0000 0044 0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 06d9 0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 06d9

HDMI 4 A55E+A5CD

0000 0068 0000 0044 0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 06d9 0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 06d9
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday September 10, 2008 at 07:58
Seanb88
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Excellent! Thanks Rob :)
Post 7 made on Friday September 26, 2008 at 02:39
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Hi,

Can you please explain how you made these codes.

I get the following.

A55E + A5CA =

A5:165
5E:94

A5:165
CA:202

So I need to join two codes together correct?

I can kind of get the correct result buy simply joining these two codes together but I’m not sure if it is the correct method.

Can someone please explain the process.

Thanks

D
Post 8 made on Friday September 26, 2008 at 10:23
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I'm not sure that joining the two codes together works.
Go to the files section and look for the utilities and dll created by John Fine.
Here is the page - [Link: remotecentral.com]
Study those and you will see how to create the Pronto hex for almost any device if you have the right information. If you have any questions post them here and I'm sure you will get some help.
For most Pioneer products you don't have to do this work as I post Pronto Hex lists (for newer products) and ccf files at pioneercustom.com. This is the USA site but most of the codes are the same for like models around the world.
Knowing how to do this couldn't hurt so if I were you I would study those utilities.
They call me the "Thread Killer". Just watch!
Post 9 made on Friday September 26, 2008 at 20:31
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Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

I already have those tools.

I can create the single codes I.E. A55E and A5CA.

What I don't understand is how to create "A55E + A5CA"


Here is what I think/understand what is happening. Please correct me if I am wrong!

From this final command (A55E + A5CA) we can see the following.

Header and lead-in bits (0000 0068 0000 0044)

As per documentation on RC (all credit to author/s);

Preamble = 0000 0068 0000 0044.

Word 1 = 0 so it is a learned IR code

Word 2 =103 decimal which when plugged into the formula already given yields an IR Carrier frequency of about 40 khz.

Word 3 = 0000 is the length of the One Time Burst. There is no one time burst

Word 4 = Decimal 68 is the length of the repeat burst. There are 68 bits (Burst pairs) in this code. The code length is 67 bits plus 1 more pair for the Lead in.

A55E part (0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 06d9)

A5C5 part (0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 06d9)

This gives us:
0000 0068 0000 0044 0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 06d9 0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 06d9

Assuming I have the above part correct then how do you use Johns tools to create the above command?

Each individual part is no problem, is it as simple as simply joining the two commands together and editing the appropriate part to show the correct number of bits?

Unfortunately I do not have the actual equipment to test my results but I believe using John’s tools I can be fairly confident that they will work.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Dan.
Post 10 made on Friday September 26, 2008 at 23:51
NSP01
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I'm not on my computer that has the programs but you can edit the Pioneer irp (and other brands') to use the two devices and commands. then Makehex will give you the double commands in hex.
I don't recall the exact lines in the irp, I think it's the Device line that's first, put both device numbers there as in Device = 165.165 (I think). 94 goes on Line 2 (I don't remember the whole line). The actual command is 202 and you know where to find that; 202 of the 256 Pronto hex codes you created using the irp.
This works and you don't have to splice the two codes together though now you've got me interested.
Watch out for Pioneer plasma as you have to change another value in the irp. I'll let you know later.
I started using MakeHex and DecodeCCF several years ago and kept all the irp's for different devices and values. I rarely have to create new ones. That's why I can't remember the lines. Sorry about that!
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Post 11 made on Sunday September 28, 2008 at 05:56
sydinstaller
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Hi NSP01,

Thank you very much for the pointers.

I found the Pion2 file and modified it to the correct values.

All looks good in the .hex file and IRtool reports the correct values.


I would not have found this out without the help.
I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks :)

Thank you again.



D


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