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Pioneer Pro-99 RPTV Learn/code issues... John?
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Post 1 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 15:22
tgrugett
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Does anyone know if this beast responds to discrete power commands?

I have discretes indicated in one of the RTI mega list 14 files for this model but they do not work.

Here is what I have found...

The non-working codes decode as a NEC2 protocol
Power NEC2 D170, F28
0000 0009 0001 0022 0F57 07A9 0F57 07A9 00F1 00F1 00F1 02DC 00F1 00F1 00F1 02DC 00F1 00F1 00F1 02DC 00F1 00F1 00F1 02DC 00F1 02DC 00F1 00F1 00F1 02DC 00F1 00F1 00F1 02DC 00F1 00F1 00F1 02DC 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 02DC 00F1 02DC 00F1 02DC 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 02DC 00F1 02DC 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 00F1 02DC 00F1 02DC 00F1 02DC 00F1 2E03
This is a code I learned several times from the native remote which does not work when issed by the RTI remote via direct line of sight (no processor).

Another power code from the RTI library decoding as a Pioneer protocol does work.
It appears to have four repeats which are not set via the RTI software.
Pioneer D170, F28
0000 0068 0000 0088 0156 00AA 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0417 0156 00AA 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0417 0156 00AA 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0417 0156 00AA 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0516

The non-working (NEC2) file lists discrete power codes at functions 26 an 27 so I would like to generate Pioneer protocol versions of these to try but unfortunately there does not seem to be a Pioneer protocol .irp file in my make hex collection.

Any ideas?

Last edited by tgrugett on December 13, 2007 16:29.
Post 2 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 16:28
NSP01
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Wow! I somewhat remember hefting some of those around.
That was before I worked with codes but there is an old ccf here that lists it wth discretes.
So I'm going to say that it should.
They call me the "Thread Killer". Just watch!
OP | Post 3 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 16:30
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I edited my first post to reflect what I have learned...

I am on site right now so the situation is developing
Post 4 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 17:03
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The simple Pioneer signals are just NEC2 at 40000 Hz. If you don't have an .irp file for that, you can just edit the frequency in the NEC2.irp file.

On December 13, 2007 at 15:22, tgrugett said...
Does anyone know if this beast responds to discrete power
commands?

I thought the Pioneer web site was pretty good at giving such info. Doesn't it have the device type you want?

The non-working codes decode as a NEC2 protocol
Power NEC2 D170, F28
0000 0009 0001 0022 0F57 07A9 0F57 07A9 00F1 00F1 00F1

That's a mess. My decode software can give a correct decode for some really bad learns like that. But I wouldn't expect that learned signal to work.

Another power code from the RTI library decoding as a
Pioneer protocol does work.
It appears to have four repeats which are not set via
the RTI software.

The only difference between the simple Pioneer protocol and NEC2 is the modulation frequency. Your bad learn had totally garbage frequency. The RTI library signal had correct Pioneer frequency.

You are correct that library signal encodes exactly four frames, where the learn (or normal MakeHex output or most other sources of Pioneer signals) encodes "repeat one frame as long as the button is held". I don't think that is the important difference.

The non-working (NEC2) file lists discrete power codes
at functions 26 an 27 so I would like to generate Pioneer
protocol versions of these to try but unfortunately there
does not seem to be a Pioneer protocol .irp file in my
make hex collection.

Answered above.

Last edited by johnsfine on December 13, 2007 17:11.
OP | Post 5 made on Thursday December 13, 2007 at 18:27
tgrugett
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Thanks Guys. All is good and right again.

I was able to generate the codes cleanly with John's help and they work like a charm.

Both my learned codes and an existing file in the library were reading at 455 with the IR Pro for some reason


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