One year ago *in this page* i've found ad interesting documentation where explain how ircode function, integrated circuits involved and many tricks to find a undocumented ircode by vendor.

He sayd there are a few number of integrated IR controller so, when he found this IC's brand, the code is limitated to few combination (I remember NEC vendor, for example...).
Starting by this rule, this doc speak about to make a button with IR code and increase some string/ascii code to find hide simply codes.

After this, I've found a simply prog who create a ccf (or pcf?) file where are a simply template with many button already designed in matrix format (program is a simply script where we specify a cols/row number like 8x9 and he create this plain ccf panel).
Of course in this output there isn't any ircode, but for find a unknowned, whit this graphical template, is a very fast work.

Neither this program now I found (I think it was on this site too, but in this case i'm not sure).

Of course I've backuped those so interesting documentation (including my old test and notes) on my private historical cdrom backup at end 2006, but, of course, now this disk is unreadable (...and very bad word say for my personal files now lost forevere....).

The point is: where do I found this doc and prog here?
Any idea?
I've already scan "Index of Software, Utilities, Icons & Help" area, nothing found.

I don't know which programs and documentation you found. I've seen several that almost fit your description. But I will tell you the programs I think are best for that task.

1) Instead of guessing based on brand, it is better to decode learned signals. If you have learned signals in a CCF file, it is best to use DecodeCCF with DecodeIr.dll. If you have Pronto Hex that is not in a CCF file, it is best to use IrTool with DecodeIr.dll

2) With the protocol name and device numbers from step 1, you can use MakeHex to generate a full set (usually 256) of possible signals for that device into Pronto Hex in a .hex file.

3) With either IrPanels or Hex2ccf you can convert the output of MakeHex into a CCF file with 256 numbered buttons.

decodeCCF.zip [Link: hifi-remote.com]
Decode_IR_DLL.zip [Link: hifi-remote.com]
[Link: remotecentral.com]
makehex.zip [Link: hifi-remote.com]
[Link: remotecentral.com]
[Link: remotecentral.com]

edit 8-dec-07: I switched off of Comcast, so I fixed some of the links above that were to my Comcast account.

PERFECT!

Makehex+hex2ccf+PENG (inport CCF) is exactley what I want and what I referred!

Thanks a lot!

With your guide I've found "new" poweroff discrete code after upgrading firmware in 37PF9731! (IS: 5000 0000 0000 0001 0000 000C )

Thanks one more time!

I'm pretty sure you are wrong.

That should be a power toggle command, not a discrete power command.

Because of the RC5 toggle bit (different kind of toggle than "toggle" command) a command may fail in ways that make a toggle command seem to be a discrete command during simple testing. But in more varied use you would find it really isn't a discrete command.

johnsfine... your definition is exact.... you are a true EXPERT!

In effect, that is another TOGGLE commando for power function.
After firts entushiatic minutes in testing environment, with normal use, I confirm that fact.

But how do you understand that is a toggle and not a dicrete code?
You said about bit in RC5... maybe simply wieving a ircode may be understand if is a toggle or a discrete code?
I think the code send by infrered led is simply a string (ok, a sequence of blink light...) and after, in the internal database of receiver, this code is mapped on funcition, so what he send is absolutely unexplainabled for real action generated.
So is not correct?

Correct.


Usually correct, but:

In a few protocols, there are a few standard command numbers. Nothing forces the designer of firmware for a new device to obey those standards. But they almost always do.

The single most common and consistent of those standards is that in RC5 protocol command 000C is the power toggle.

Very clear.
So, there is a bit, or sequence or something to recreate a correct a discrete code of power off command?

Thanks for your usefull explanation!

Sorry. There is no standard within RC5 protocol for the command numbers of discrete power commands.