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Post 1 made on Tuesday August 14, 2007 at 19:47
Frunple
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Does anyone actually know how to disect an IR code?

IOW,
0000 0070 0000 000D 0021 0020 0021 0020 0043 0022 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0022 0042 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0022 02EA

What does that mean? and, can anyone figure out what the opposite command is?

Thats the on command for a tv, I need the off and cant find it anywhere.
Post 2 made on Tuesday August 14, 2007 at 20:04
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On August 14, 2007 at 19:47, Frunple said...
Does anyone actually know how to disect an IR code?

To decode Pronto Hex you should get IrTool and DecodeIR
[Link: remotecentral.com]
[Link: john.fine.home.comcast.net]

To really dissect Pronto Hex you should read this:
[Link: remotecentral.com]
but decoding it is easier and more useful.

Once you have it decoded, you may want to use MakeHex to generate related codes.
[Link: john.fine.home.comcast.net]

What does that mean? and, can anyone figure out what the
opposite command is?

That is RC5 protocol, device number 0, function 63. IR signals don't inherently have opposites.

Thats the on command for a tv, I need the off and cant
find it anywhere.

Many TV's have that as a discrete On command. Most of those have function 61 as a discrete Off command. Some seem to lack Discrete Off and use discrete On followed by power toggle (function 12) to act as discrete Off. I didn't notice any that had discrete Off that was any function other than 61.

Here is some output from MakeHex for you:

Device Code: 0 Function: 61
0000 0073 0000 000C 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0CA4

You didn't mention what sort of universal remote you're using. If it is a Pronto, then RC5 codes will work better in condensed form.

Discrete Off is:
5000 0000 0000 0001 0000 003F

Discrete On is:
5000 0000 0000 0001 0000 003D

Power toggle is:
5000 0000 0000 0001 0000 000C

Last edited by johnsfine on August 14, 2007 20:15.
Post 3 made on Wednesday August 15, 2007 at 02:33
konker71
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I need help with using the Hex codes for the Sony VPL-CX5 Remote Commander found here: [Link: remotecentral.com]

My friend's projector RC was lost & the replacement has been difficult to find in these location where we are.

Can I use these IR codes to program a off the shelf Universal Remote Controller?
What would I need to do that?

Can a normal URC intended for replacing RCs of domestic devices be programmed using a computer with some software?

Please advice me as I'm new to this.
Thanks!
Post 4 made on Wednesday August 15, 2007 at 07:27
Kupakai
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On August 15, 2007 at 02:33, konker71 said...
I need help with using the Hex codes for the Sony VPL-CX5
Remote Commander found here: [Link: remotecentral.com]

My friend's projector RC was lost & the replacement has
been difficult to find in these location where we are.

Can I use these IR codes to program a off the shelf Universal
Remote Controller?
What would I need to do that?

Can a normal URC intended for replacing RCs of domestic
devices be programmed using a computer with some software?

You can get a much less expensive One for All URC-8820, URC-6690 or Radio Shack 15-100, and they will have a built in setup code (TV/0834) that should give you some of the keys on that link (power, arrow keys and enter). You will be able to add the other functions by reprogramming the keys on the remote using advanced codes. I don't think there will be a way to do the right and left click this way though.

I can show you how to do this if you are interested in going this route. It involves a lot of punching in codes on the remote, or getting a JP1.x cable to connect the remote to the computer to program and upload a upgrade file to the remote.

Last edited by Kupakai on August 15, 2007 07:37.
OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday August 15, 2007 at 16:53
Frunple
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On August 14, 2007 at 20:04, johnsfine said...
To decode Pronto Hex you should get IrTool and DecodeIR
[Link: remotecentral.com]
[Link: john.fine.home.comcast.net]

To really dissect Pronto Hex you should read this:
[Link: remotecentral.com]
but decoding it is easier and more useful.

Once you have it decoded, you may want to use MakeHex
to generate related codes.
[Link: john.fine.home.comcast.net]

That is RC5 protocol, device number 0, function 63. IR
signals don't inherently have opposites.

Many TV's have that as a discrete On command. Most of
those have function 61 as a discrete Off command. Some
seem to lack Discrete Off and use discrete On followed
by power toggle (function 12) to act as discrete Off.
I didn't notice any that had discrete Off that was any
function other than 61.

Here is some output from MakeHex for you:

Device Code: 0 Function: 61
0000 0073 0000 000C 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020
0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0020 0040 0020 0020 0020 0020
0020 0020 0040 0040 0020 0CA4

You didn't mention what sort of universal remote you're
using. If it is a Pronto, then RC5 codes will work better
in condensed form.

Discrete Off is:
5000 0000 0000 0001 0000 003F

Discrete On is:
5000 0000 0000 0001 0000 003D

Power toggle is:
5000 0000 0000 0001 0000 000C

Thanks for the info.
That code did nothing, I guess I'll have to do the discrete on then toggle. Didnt really want to do that but oh well.
Oh, I'm using a Harmony 880.
Post 6 made on Thursday August 16, 2007 at 02:06
konker71
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Thanks for the information!

I'm not sure I can get hold of one of those universal RCs here is Asia.
They have alot of off-the-shelf universal models that I can grab & program.
The only issue is I do not have the original remote controller since it has been misplaced.
Can I use any software, like the ones suggested in this post, to program those URCs?
TIA!


On August 15, 2007 at 07:27, Kupakai said...
You can get a much less expensive One for All URC-8820,
URC-6690 or Radio Shack 15-100, and they will have a built
in setup code (TV/0834) that should give you some of the
keys on that link (power, arrow keys and enter). You will
be able to add the other functions by reprogramming the
keys on the remote using advanced codes. I don't think
there will be a way to do the right and left click this
way though.

I can show you how to do this if you are interested in
going this route. It involves a lot of punching in codes
on the remote, or getting a JP1.x cable to connect the
remote to the computer to program and upload a upgrade
file to the remote.
Post 7 made on Thursday August 16, 2007 at 07:22
Kupakai
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On August 16, 2007 at 02:06, konker71 said...
Thanks for the information!

I'm not sure I can get hold of one of those universal
RCs here is Asia.
They have alot of off-the-shelf universal models that
I can grab & program.
The only issue is I do not have the original remote controller
since it has been misplaced.
Can I use any software, like the ones suggested in this
post, to program those URCs?
TIA!

You really should start a new thread instead of hijacking this one, since your question is not really related to the original post.
Post 8 made on Thursday August 16, 2007 at 22:08
konker71
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I had no intention of highjacking this thread.
You posted the reply here too.
I just wanted to know how to put those hex codes to use for a replacement off-the-shelf URC.
Will take your feedback into consideration for future post....if needed.

On August 16, 2007 at 07:22, Kupakai said...
You really should start a new thread instead of hijacking
this one, since your question is not really related to
the original post.
Post 9 made on Saturday August 18, 2007 at 10:09
johnsfine
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On August 16, 2007 at 02:06, konker71 said...
I'm not sure I can get hold of one of those universal
RCs here is Asia.

Rob (owner of the JP1 forum) sells remote controls and JP1 cables and ships them to many countries at reasonable prices. He often programs remotes before shipping in cases like this, where there is a well defined code set that is requested, so you may not need the JP1 cable at all and/or you may be able to use the remote before learning the JP1 software. See Rob's post at
[Link: hifi-remote.com]


Can I use any software, like the ones suggested in this
post, to program those URCs?

I don't understand which "URCs" you mean. Almost any remote that can be programmed by any PC interface can be programmed based on the information in that link you posted. There are several brands and many models of remote that can be programmed by PC interface. The least expensive of those are probably the JP1 remotes and cable sold by Rob.

Most "universal" remotes that can't be programmed by PC (as well as those that could but you don't have the cable) can't be programmed with the information from that link. Kupakai mentioned three models that CAN be programmed with this code set without connection to a PC. I assume he is correct about that. Few, if any, other models could be programmed for this code set without a PC. Even those models would be easier to program if you got a JP1.2 cable and used that to program them.
Post 10 made on Monday August 20, 2007 at 10:11
Kupakai
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Konker,

If you get either the URC-8820 or the URC_6690 from Rob, the setup code TV/0834 will get you the arrow keys, OK and power keys from the built in setup. The rest of the functions can be programmed in with just the remote using advanced functions:

Freeze = 13724
MS Slide = 60316
Power = 32751
Input = 36335
Keystone = 59548
APA = 15004
Menu = 40687
Pic Muting = 09199
Enter = 04335
Up = 24559
Left = 25583
Right = 23791
Down = 25071
ZM+ = 47260
ZM- = 46236
Reset = 60655
Function 1 = 47772
Function 2 = 46748

EDIT: I just noticed over in the JP1 forum that Rob said he can preload the codes for you. That would be much easier, but I would still keep this list for the future if you ever reset the remote, whether intentionally or not.


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