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SHARP IR codes for European Models
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Post 1 made on Monday July 2, 2007 at 07:30
Sharpen
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Hi All,

Having just exhibited at CEDIA UK our feedback suggests many system integrators did not have the following information:

Sorry if this looks messy - I pasted from excel and it lost its formatting
KeyName Function Control Code
SYSTEMDATADEFINEEXT
C1-C5C6-C11C12-C13C14-C15

Power On on 100010101001010
Power Off (stand-by)off 100011101001010
EXT-1 (Input 1)direct selection for EXT-1100011011011110
EXT-2 (Input 2)direct selection for EXT-2100010111011110
EXT-3 (Input 3)direct selection for EXT-3100011111011110
EXT-4 (Input 4)direct selection for EXT-4100010010111110
EXT-5 (Input 5)direct selection for EXT-5100011010111110
EXT-6 (Input 6)direct selection for EXT-6100010001111110

These are valid for European models (ending in E, eg LC-42XD1E etc). The AD5 series are as follows:

EXT-1 (Input 1)direct selection for EXT-1100011011011110
EXT-2 (Input 2)direct selection for EXT-2100010111011110
EXT-3 (Input 3)direct selection for EXT-3100011111011110
EXT-4 (Input 4)direct selection for EXT-4100010010111110
EXT-5 (Input 5)direct selection for EXT-5100011010111110
EXT-6 (Input 6)direct selection for EXT-6100010001111110
EXT-7 (Input 7)direct selection for EXT-7100011010100110
Power ON (N/A - Possible running change)100010101001010
Power OFF (N/A - Possible running change)100011101001010

Hope these help
Shane
You live and learn - then die and forget it all...
Post 2 made on Wednesday July 4, 2007 at 04:06
smermier
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Hello,

i'm looking for that codes for a year!!!!
Can you explain me how does they work? I want to paste them in my HEX data, in the theater touch designer library.
Does anybody could mail me the excel file?

Thanks a lot.

Stephane.
Post 3 made on Wednesday July 4, 2007 at 09:16
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I have answered in many other threads with details of how you translate from the form Sharp and Denon document into Pronto Hex.

Here is one working from the backwards binary, such as that posted above.
[Link: remotecentral.com]

The following answer is easier to use if the data you have from Sharp lists the hex values in addition to the backwards binary
[Link: remotecentral.com]

Last edited by johnsfine on July 4, 2007 09:33.
Post 4 made on Wednesday July 4, 2007 at 14:01
SMCSI
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Tested on a Sharp Aquos LC-32AD5E - UK Model

Converted some of the codes to Pronto HEX:

Don't have the discrete power yet:

Device Code: 17 Function: 237 - Ext1
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 17 Function: 238 - Ext 2
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 17 Function: 239 - Ext 3
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 17 Function: 244 - Ext 4
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 17 Function: 245 - Ext 5
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 17 Function: 248 - Ext 6
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 17 Function: 149 - Ext 7
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

Hope this helps someone.

Anyone got the power discretes yet?

Last edited by SMCSI on July 4, 2007 14:16.
Post 5 made on Wednesday July 4, 2007 at 14:51
smermier
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On July 4, 2007 at 09:16, johnsfine said...
I have answered in many other threads with details of
how you translate from the form Sharp and Denon document
into Pronto Hex.

Here is one working from the backwards binary, such as
that posted above.
[Link: remotecentral.com]

The following answer is easier to use if the data you
have from Sharp lists the hex values in addition to the
backwards binary
[Link: remotecentral.com]

Ok I have used the first method.

MakeHex gave me some HEX Codes, but the problem is that there is a frequency mistake.

With my RTI Pro IR, The original frequency code are 38,2KHz.

If i indicate Frequency = 38200, when i paste the Hex code made by MakeHex in the Infrared Library Manager (RTI), it indicates me 38,0 KHz.

If I indicate Frequency = 38001, when i paste the Hex code made by MakeHex in the Infrared Library Manager (RTI), it indicates me 38,4 KHz.

Other details from sharp.irp
Device=17
Function=0..255

Protocol=SHARP

Time Base=264 '10 cycles
zero=1,-3
one=1,-7
suffix=1,-165
Form=;D:5,F:8,1:2,_,D:5,∼F:8,2:2,_


The Hex codes created doesn't work. But i still believe that one day, i'm gonna find these codes!!!!

Thanks for your help.
Stephane
Post 6 made on Wednesday July 4, 2007 at 15:05
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On July 4, 2007 at 14:51, smermier said...
MakeHex gave me some HEX Codes, but the problem is that
there is a frequency mistake.

Pronto hex cannot represent every possible frequency. There are moderate size jumps between the frequencies it can represent.

But that doesn't matter. The device receiving the signal doesn't care about a small difference in frequency.

Many of the components used to receive the signals have specs saying a 10% error in frequency degrades performance the same amount as doubling the distance between the remote and the device. Small errors in frequency have less than a linear fraction of that effect.

I'm not convinced the RTI is accurately measuring the original frequency. But regardless of which is correct, you're seeing differences mostly under 1%. Those will have no detectable effect.

The Hex codes created doesn't work. But i still believe
that one day, i'm gonna find these codes!!!!

I don't think you've given enough info to guess whether you generated them wrong with MakeHex, imported them wrong to RTI, or your model of Sharp doesn't use those codes.
Post 7 made on Thursday July 5, 2007 at 03:54
smermier
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I had re-converted the first sharp codes with makehex, but they still doesn't work.
I've got a Sharp AD5E too, and the codes posted by SMCSI work perfectly.
SMCI could you make the code for the first codes please, i want to test them!

If anybody could help me...

Thanks for all.

Stephane.
Post 8 made on Thursday July 5, 2007 at 08:18
SMCSI
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The two sets of codes posted are exactly the same, the power on/off doesn't work. I've only recently figured out what I'm doing with makehex so here is my take on it:

1. Get the codes from above e.g.

EXT-1 (Input 1)direct selection for EXT-1 10001 10110111 10

2. The first 5 bits (10001) is the device code.

3. Reverse these 5 bits:

10001 becomes 10001
11001 becomes 10011 etc

4. Convert from binary (10001) to decimal using windows scientific calculator. Click on the radio button BIN, enter 10001 then click on the radio button for DEC and you will get 17. Enter this into the sharp.irp file for makehex

...
Device=17
Function=0..255
...

5. Use file manager to go to the folder where makehex lives and drag the edited sharp.irp file onto makehex.exe. After a couple of second the sharp.hex file will be there with all the possible hex commands.

6 Look at the next 8 bits of the original code above 10110111.

Reverse it so 10110111 becomes 11101101

Put that into the calculator and you get 237 in decimal

7. Open the sharp.hex file with notepad and find function 237

Device Code: 17 Function: 237
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

Pop into your pronto program or whatever your using and it should do the function for Discrete Ext 1 input.

Hope this helps for now and in the future. Your probably the same as me and just need to get your head round it.
Post 9 made on Thursday July 5, 2007 at 11:11
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I do not know if this will help or not. I have not yet checked to see if the documented codes above are already in this list....

[Link: remotecentral.com]
Post 10 made on Thursday July 5, 2007 at 11:31
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On July 5, 2007 at 11:11, tgrugett said...
I have not yet
checked to see if the documented codes above are already
in this list....

The lists in posts 1 and 4 of this thread both include

Device 17 Function: 149 - Ext 7

That is missing from most (maybe all, I haven't checked) of the many previous threads on this subject and is missing from your list.

Of course, I have no clue which, IF ANY, models understand that code.
Post 11 made on Friday July 6, 2007 at 04:04
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On July 5, 2007 at 11:31, johnsfine said...
The lists in posts 1 and 4 of this thread both include

Device 17 Function: 149 - Ext 7

That is missing from most (maybe all, I haven't checked)
of the many previous threads on this subject and is missing
from your list.

Of course, I have no clue which, IF ANY, models understand
that code.

My list has been edited now to include this code. Very good observation... but that is what I have come to expect from you :).
Post 12 made on Friday July 6, 2007 at 04:15
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These are the inputs on the LC32-AD5E

Ext 1: SCART (RGB)
Ext 2: SCART (RGB)
Ext 3: Composite / S-Video / Stereo Audio
Ext 4: Component / Stereo Audio
Ext 5: HDMI
Ext 6: HDMI
Ext 7: PC (15-pin D)
Post 13 made on Friday August 3, 2007 at 08:36
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|| These are valid for European models (ending in E, eg LC-42XD1E
etc). The AD5 series are as follows:

EXT-1 (Input 1)direct selection for EXT-1100011011011110
EXT-2 (Input 2)direct selection for EXT-2100010111011110
EXT-3 (Input 3)direct selection for EXT-3100011111011110
EXT-4 (Input 4)direct selection for EXT-4100010010111110
EXT-5 (Input 5)direct selection for EXT-5100011010111110
EXT-6 (Input 6)direct selection for EXT-6100010001111110
EXT-7 (Input 7)direct selection for EXT-7100011010100110
Power ON (N/A - Possible running change)100010101001010
Power OFF (N/A - Possible running change)100011101001010

WHAT DOES "N/A POSSIBLE RUNNING CHANGE" MEAN ?????
Post 14 made on Friday August 3, 2007 at 14:43
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On August 3, 2007 at 08:36, erik-nl said...
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WHAT DOES "N/A POSSIBLE RUNNING CHANGE" MEAN ?????

Those are the same power codes that are already widely available and listed in the first set of that post. It seems that they are not implemented for the European models. It sounds like there may be a potential firmware update available at some time to implement these, however, I have no idea how the firmware update would take place.
Post 15 made on Wednesday August 15, 2007 at 10:36
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Hi everobody,

I'm still looking discrete codes for GA-6E and GD-7E series. The codes for XD1E doesn't work.

Does anybody know something about my problem, i'm still looking for that codes for months now and I still haven't find what i'm looking for.

So please help me...

Thanks.
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