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How do you find out what codeset a particular device uses (Sanyo PLV-Z5 projector)?
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Post 1 made on Monday December 11, 2006 at 22:20
Jason Allan
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Hi everyone,

I recent purchased a Sanyo PLV-Z5 projector and unfortunately the included remote doesn't have discrete codes for all of the inputs. The projector has two component inputs and two HDMI inputs but the remote just has a button for "component" and one for "HDMI" which toggle between the two inputs for each. So far I haven't been able to find anyone who's found discrete IR codes for these inputs.

I went through a similar issue recently with an AKAI plasma set that I bought. My MX-850 remote had a device for another model of AKAI plasma that sort of worked and someone here (I believe it was johnsfine) was able to tell me what IR codeset that device used so I was able to generate the full codeset using makehex and irpanels. I'd like to try the same thing with my Sanyo projector to see if I can find discrete codes for these inputs. The Z5 seems to use the same codeset as the Z4 so how can I find out what codeset the Z4 uses? I did some searching and found threads indicating Sanyo TVs typically use NEC1 protocol, device 56. Would it be the same for their projectors?

Thanks
Post 2 made on Tuesday December 12, 2006 at 08:41
johnsfine
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On December 11, 2006 at 22:20, Jason Allan said...
I did some searching and found
threads indicating Sanyo TVs typically use NEC1 protocol,
device 56. Would it be the same for their projectors?

Looks unlikely.

I use DecodeCCF.exe and DecodeIR.dll to get such information from CCF files.

I looked in a few places (JP1, LIRC, Premise, etc.) for Sanyo projector info and the only ones I found were the CCF files at:

[Link: remotecentral.com]

There the Sanyo PLV-Z1 uses NEC1 protocol, device 48.206 and the Sanyo PLV-60HT seems to use a mix of Mitsubishi 71 and NEC1 48. I'm not sure I believe that mix (vs. commands being incorrect or mislabeled in the CCF file) but anyway the PLV-60HT must be different from the PLV-Z1 and both different from Sanyo TV's.

If Sanyo is rebranding whatever projector they get a good deal on for each model, then the above tells you nothing about the PLV-Z5. But if they're doing something more consistent then NEC1 device 48.206 has a good chance of working for you.

That Z1 has a strange power toggle command. It is a macro of NEC device 48 function 255 followed by NEC device 48.206 function 0. All the other functions are NEC1 device 48.206. If that turns out to be the code set for the Z5, you may need to do some experimentation to figure out what that macro is about (and whether some functions missing from the original remote require similar compound signals).

The menu button is function 28. That may be the easiest function to test (MakeHex to IrPanels to Universal browser) to find out if it is the right code set.

Last edited by johnsfine on December 12, 2006 08:57.
OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday December 12, 2006 at 21:41
Jason Allan
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Well, I did some more searching and found that the Z2 uses the NEC1 protocol, device 51 so I gave that a try and it worked on my Z5. I found a lot of discrete codes, including the inputs I was looking for. There are also a bunch that are a bit scary - many brought up various service menus, one did a factory reset, and one actually did some sort of eeprom initialization (yikes!). Luckily I hit that one right after doing a factory reset so it didn't seem to save any bad settings. Just goes to show that playing around with these things can be dangerous (I knew full well the risks before starting).

Anyway, I stopped testing codes once I got into the 180s because one after another kept opening some sort of service menu so I didn't want to take any more chances. I had already found the codes I was looking for so I figured it was best to stop.

Here's the list of what I found for others who might be interested. Note that I skipped over 160-162 because I figured those are almost definitely the discrete power codes, just like the Z2:

160 - power on
161 - compulsory power off
162 - power off

I didn't want to test those because I don't really need them and I don't like cycling the power on my projector unnecessarily because of the stress on the lamp. Here's the list of codes I did find before stopping at 182:

0 power toggle
12 brightness toggle
13 user image 1
14 brilliant cinema
22 info
24 lamp control
28 menu
48 brightness
49 contrast
50 colour
51 lens iris
55 hdmi toggle
56 computer
61 video
62 s-video
67 freeze
130 screen
131 component toggle
137 exclamation bottom left corner
139 no show
140 cursor up
141 cursor down
144 hdmi1
146 factory reset
148 hdmi2
151 video
152 s-video
153 computer
156 service mode
157 eeprom initialization
163 service mode
164 brilliant cinema
165 component1
166 component2
167 lens cover demo
169 freeze on
170 freeze off
173 no show on
174 no show off
175 service mode
176 service mode
177 service mode
178 service mode
179 service mode
180 service mode
181 service mode
182 service mode
Post 4 made on Wednesday December 13, 2006 at 00:48
MWASMUND
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Jason,
I'm not sure I understand,Have you got these codes loaded in your MX-850 ? Can you post these codes or even send me the MXD file ? I Have been looking for discretes for the PLV-Z5.
Thanks!!
Sometimes you just have to figure it out for yourself!
Post 5 made on Wednesday December 13, 2006 at 08:38
johnsfine
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On December 12, 2006 at 21:41, Jason Allan said...
Well, I did some more searching and found that the Z2
uses the NEC1 protocol, device 51

I'm currious where you found that. As mentioned in post 2 of this thread, I looked in all the places I usually look for such info and didn't find the Z2.

On December 13, 2006 at 00:48, MWASMUND said...
I'm not sure I understand,Have you got these codes loaded
in your MX-850 ?

He mentioned using MakeHex and IrPanels to create a file that can be read with Universal Browser for his Akai, so we can assume he did the same for the Sanyo.

If he doesn't email the mxd to you, you could create it yourself the same way:
makehex.zip [Link: hifi-remote.com]
[Link: remotecentral.com]

Edit nec1.irp to change the device to 51. Save that modified nec1.irp
Drag/drop that modified nec1.irp onto MakeHex.exe
Open nec1.hex in a text editor, select all and copy.
Start IrPanels.exe, paste in the text copied above and create a CCF file.
Start the MX-850 editor and open your config and select the universal browser.
Open the CCF in universal browser and drag the numbered buttons from the ccf file onto appropriate buttons of your 850.
Use the list he posted above to know which numbered button to drag for each function.
Try any numbers he didn't test at your own risk. It sounds like this projector could be
damaged by careless use of its undocumented functions. Read:
[Link: remotecentral.com]

Last edited by johnsfine on December 8, 2007 16:15.
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday December 13, 2006 at 12:01
Jason Allan
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Hi John,

I found the info on the Z2 in this thread:
[Link: remotecentral.com]

Note that it's actually device 51.0 (which I did use). I'm not sure if that's the same as just specifying device 51.

MWASMUND - the instructions John laid out are exactly what I did (except you may want to use 51.0 for the device ID just to be sure it's the same). It's actually quite simple to do. If you're having trouble let me know and I can send you an .mxd file but I'm out of town for a couple of days so I probably won't be able to get to it until this weekend.
Post 7 made on Wednesday December 13, 2006 at 12:58
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Device 51.0 is definitely not the same as device 51, you need 51.0.

Apparently there is more than one code set for these. I didn't see anything describing how you configure the projector for another code set. I assume that once you have done that you can use the multiple code sets to independently control multiple projectors in the same room. Some models work with eight code sets, others with just the first two code sets. The eight code sets can be created in MakeHex using device 51.0, 51.17, 51.34, 51.51, 51.68, 51.85, 51.102 and 51.119

It also said the three power discrete commands only work in the first code set. I would think that wrecks a lot of the benefit of having multiple code sets.
Post 8 made on Thursday December 14, 2006 at 15:25
MWASMUND
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I didn't have much luck generating them myself. I'm probably doing something silly. Anyway I don't have the projector yet, just wanted to have discretes before buying it. If you could post the codes that would be great. Or even send them to me in MXD,MXF or CCF that would be great!!
Thanks,
Mark
Sometimes you just have to figure it out for yourself!
Post 9 made on Saturday December 16, 2006 at 10:05
fleon
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I'm in the same boat. Not too sure on how to use all the info above, sadly. I'll look into it, but, in the meantime, does anyone have a CCF I could use with my Pronto which might work?

Thanks!
Post 10 made on Saturday December 16, 2006 at 10:20
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MakeHex and IrPanels are easy to use. But I did that part for you anyway. You can download from:

[Link: home.comcast.net]

Use the list of function numbers from post 3 of this thread. I don't have any projector myself. I have no way of testing any of this. I'm just posting based on what Jason posted.

For an mxd, open that CCF in the universal browser and drag from the numbered buttons in the CCF based on the numbered list of functions in post 3.

For a CCF, you might want to ask (in the appropriate forum) for better ways to merge CCF files. I'm not an expert in ProntoEdit. You can merge the ccf I posted into some CCF file with appropriate graphics, then you can define the action of each of the buttons, within those correct graphics, to be an alias of the numbered button in the section merged from my ccf file. As above, you would use post 3 of this thread to tell you which number to use for which function.

For best UI, you may want to hide the panels containing the numbered buttons after you're done testing. But I don't know enough about ProntoEdit to tell you how (or even whether) you can do that after this type of merge.

In case Jason or I made a mistake or in case your model isn't compatible, you probably want to test several of the numbered buttons to see if they really do what Jason said, before you go to the effort of defining all those alias actions.
Post 11 made on Saturday December 16, 2006 at 14:41
MWASMUND
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Johnsfine you are the man! Thankyou for the CCF. I don't know if the codes work. Anyone else own the Z5 can try out some of these codes?

Fleon, have you tried these in your pronto yet ? I do not own the PLV-Z5 yet, but soon will order it if the codes work.
Thanks, Mark
Sometimes you just have to figure it out for yourself!
OP | Post 12 made on Monday December 18, 2006 at 08:59
Jason Allan
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Hi folks,

I've been swamped the last few days between work and getting ready for the holidays so I haven't had a chance to get back to this yet. However, some time over the next week or so I'll take some time and put together an .mxd file with the discrete commands and post it to the files section.

Regards,
Jason
Post 13 made on Monday December 18, 2006 at 10:38
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I have tried a few with my Z5.
hdmi1, hdmi2, component1, component2, power off and compulsory power off all worked. power on did not but I'll give it another try to make sure there wasn't a glitch in my conversion. Have not tried any others yet.
I am using a MX500/IRClone and the CCF2MX utility.
Post 14 made on Wednesday December 20, 2006 at 21:04
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Cannot get the power on code to work. Also tried every other Sanyo projector discrete on code I could find on the Remote Central site but none of them appear to work with the Z5.
Post 15 made on Wednesday December 20, 2006 at 21:12
MWASMUND
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Of coarse the ON code is what I was most interested in. I really wanted to put it in a Macro.

Has anyone else found the ON code for the PLV-Z5 ?

Also, what is the difference between compulsory OFF and OFF in this code set ?
Sometimes you just have to figure it out for yourself!
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