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Post 1 made on Tuesday July 18, 2006 at 01:23
inghram
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The new sharps are different.

I have tried all the old discretes and the tv is different.

Anybody have the same results??

Thanks
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Post 2 made on Tuesday July 18, 2006 at 12:39
RTanner
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I have not been able to successfully find discrete ON/OFF or Input commands for a new Sharp Aquos 26 inch LCD either.
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Post 3 made on Tuesday July 18, 2006 at 14:23
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Here we go again.... Thanks Sharp!

just had to rant
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Post 4 made on Saturday July 22, 2006 at 08:43
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What modesl the GD40/41 series.

Mike
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Post 5 made on Friday August 11, 2006 at 11:54
Mike Inghram
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‚b‚n‚c‚d(15Bit)
codeSYSTEMDATAHEX
c1 - c5c6 - c11c12.c13c14,c15CODE
Power On(only)1000101010010101114A
Power Off(only)1000111010010101114B
Input110000101011001001135
Input210000011011001001136
Input310000111011001001137
Input4100001011001110011CD
Input51000100110010101114C


‚b‚n‚c‚d(15Bit)
codeSYSTEMDATAHEX
c1 - c5c6 - c11c12.c13c14,c15CODE
1‚o‚n‚v‚d‚q@ON/OFF10000011010001001116
2ANT@‚ƒ‚ˆ‚‚Ž‚‡‚…100001001010110011A9
3‚h‚m‚o‚t‚s@‚ƒ‚ˆ‚‚Ž‚‡‚…10000110010001001113
4AV@‚‚‚“‚‰‚”‚‰‚‚Ž100000001111110011F8
5FRONT SURROUND1000001110110100116E
6MTS10000000110001001118
7CC1000001010010100114A
8PINP ON/OFF10000100010101001151
9TWIN P SELECT10001100100001011109
10PINP CH+1000111011100101113B
11SCREEN SIZE100000000010110011A0
12PINP MEMO10000110010101001153
13PINP INPUT10000001010101001154
14PINP CH-1000100111100101113C
15DISPLAY1000011011000100111B
16SLEEP1000001011000100111A
171(TV)10000100000001001101
182(TV)10000010000001001102
193(TV)10000110000001001103
204(TV)10000001000001001104
215(TV)10000101000001001105
226(TV)10000011000001001106
237(TV)10000111000001001107
248(TV)10000000100001001108
259(TV)10000100100001001109
26₯(DOT)1000101011100101113A
270(TV)1000001010000100110A
28100(TV)1000011010000100110B
29VOL +10000001010001001114
30CH RETURN1000011110100100112F
31TV CH+10000100010001001111
32VOL -10000101010001001115
33AUDIO MUTE10000111010001001117
34TV CH-10000010010001001112
35MENU RETURN100000010111110011F4
36MENU ON/OFF10000000001001001120
37UP10000111010101001157
38LEFT100001010111110011F5
39SET100001110111110011F7
40RIGHT100000110111110011F6
41DOWN10000000110101001158
42BLUE@‚j‚…‚™100001000110110011B1
43GREEN@‚j‚…‚™100000100110110011B2
44RED@‚j‚…‚™100001100110110011B3
45YELLOW@‚j‚…‚™100000010110110011B4
46Power On(only)1000101010010101114A
47Power Off(only)1000111010010101114B
51Input110000010011001001132
52Input210000110011001001133
53Input310000001011001001134
54Input4100001100101110011D3
55PC Direct01111100000011001181


Anybody know what to make of these. I would like to learn to convert these to usable hex.

My problem is with the lc 32d40u.

I did a lc 45d40u and the old discretes worked fine
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Post 6 made on Monday August 21, 2006 at 09:13
stereoguy823
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OK, so I've been all over with searches and stuff but still no luck. There is all manner of discussion on makehex, etc. But I still don't get it. May be I'm just a donut.

I managed to get an excel file from sharp with the codes in this format:

10001 101101 11 10

that is for ext-1.

I have seen other people posting codes that have more digits at the end. Mine do not. They are exactly as above.

I can find ALL SORTS on this site, but I cannot find a solution to the makehex thing. Basically I cannot find out what to put in makehex for device and function.

I want to end up with a pronto hex code that I can paste into pronto edit.

These sharp codes are always changing from what I can tell, and this latest excel file is likely to be good for the latest models. So I would like to convert these codes myself.

If I'm being dumb, please tell me!
Sticking to what I'm good at.
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Post 7 made on Monday August 21, 2006 at 09:46
johnsfine
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On August 21, 2006 at 09:13, stereoguy823 said...
I managed to get an excel file from sharp with the codes
in this format:

10001 101101 11 10

The first part 10001 is the device number in backwards binary. 10001 happens to be the same backwards or fowards. It is the binary for decimal 17. So with MakeHex, you would use the sharp.irp file and set the device number to 17.

The next two parts 101101 11 together are the function number in backwards binary. So you put them together and reverse the sequence to get 11101101. Then convert from binary to decimal to get 237.

People who know a little more about Excel than I do, would be able to tell you how to write an Excel formula that would concatenate those two fields, textually reverse the result, and then convert from binary to decimal.

The last part 10 just tells you it is Sharp protocol, rather than Denon. I assume that part is the same for all the signals in your file.

When you run MakeHex for Sharp device 17, you get all 256 possible functions. Then you use the function numbers computed as described above (the way I got that 237) to select and label functions from the MakeHex output. That can be done one ProntoHex string at a time directly from the .hex file to ProntoEdit, or you might find it easier to use IrPanels.exe to convert MakeHex output to a CCF file with numbered buttons and then merge that whole CCF into your own config.

I have seen other people posting codes that have more
digits at the end. Mine do not. They are exactly as above.

The extra digits on the end are the same info, but in hex rather than in backwards binary. That would simplify the Excel formula needed to convert to decimal.


I can find ALL SORTS on this site, but I cannot find a
solution to the makehex thing. Basically I cannot find
out what to put in makehex for device and function.

As I stated above, you just put the device number into makehex (via sharp.irp). You don't edit the "function=0..255" line already in sharp.irp. Then you use the function numbers computed from the Excel file to select from the makehex output.
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Post 8 made on Monday August 21, 2006 at 18:57
stereoguy823
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John, thank you for the help. I'm nearly there....

On August 21, 2006 at 09:46, johnsfine said...
The first part 10001 is the device number in backwards
binary. 10001 happens to be the same backwards or fowards.
It is the binary for decimal 17. So with MakeHex, you
would use the sharp.irp file and set the device number
to 17.

That's great, but HOW did you get to 17? I know you said it is. I am no mathematician and would welcome any pointers in calculating this.

The next two parts 101101 11 together are the function
number in backwards binary. So you put them together
and reverse the sequence to get 11101101. Then convert
from binary to decimal to get 237.

That's just it, I would like to know how to convert from binary to decimal!

People who know a little more about Excel than I do, would
be able to tell you how to write an Excel formula that
would concatenate those two fields, textually reverse
the result, and then convert from binary to decimal.

The last part 10 just tells you it is Sharp protocol,
rather than Denon. I assume that part is the same for
all the signals in your file.

Correct, all codes finish in 10.

When you run MakeHex for Sharp device 17, you get all
256 possible functions. Then you use the function numbers
computed as described above (the way I got that 237) to
select and label functions from the MakeHex output. That
can be done one ProntoHex string at a time directly from
the .hex file to ProntoEdit, or you might find it easier
to use IrPanels.exe to convert MakeHex output to a CCF
file with numbered buttons and then merge that whole CCF
into your own config.

The extra digits on the end are the same info, but in
hex rather than in backwards binary. That would simplify
the Excel formula needed to convert to decimal.

As I stated above, you just put the device number into
makehex (via sharp.irp). You don't edit the "function=0..255"
line already in sharp.irp. Then you use the function
numbers computed from the Excel file to select from the
makehex output.

Agreed, I now have 255 discrete hex codes. But If anyone can tell me how to calculate the binary to decimal were all done.
John your help is legendary, I have read so many posts where you happily give your time and knowledge to others readily. Thanks.
Sticking to what I'm good at.
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Post 9 made on Monday August 21, 2006 at 19:26
johnsfine
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I just now went into Excel help and typed bin2dec.

That documented how to use the bin2dec function (which I already knew) and also reminded me that you need to load the "Analysis ToolPak" before bin2dec works and it tells you how (those details I had mostly forgotten).

Once you have bin2dec working in Excel, you can use it to convert binary to decimal. You could also use Windows calculator in view/scientific mode to convert binary to decimal. But since the data is already in Excel, using Excel should be easier.

I tried a couple searches in Excel help to see how to reverse a text string, and didn't find anything. So you'll need to dig deeper in Excel help and/or do that some more tedious way (you need to reverse the binary text string before bin2dec, because Sharp documents those bits backwards).
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Post 10 made on Monday September 25, 2006 at 13:02
stereoguy823
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Hello all.

I have attempted to turn sharps own binary IR codes into pronto hex and would appreciate it if anyone could try them out before I get a chance to.

Many thanks to johnsfine and Richard Barman without whose help I would never have made it.

As follows; these codes are for the new LCD-TV range from 23/2/06.



Device Code: 17 Function: 60" ./.." antenna? or program select?
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

Device Code: 17 Function: 74Power ON
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

Device Code: 17 Function: 75Power OFF (Standby)
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

Device Code: 17 Function: 129PC input direct
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679


Device Code: 17 Function: 164DVB radio
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679


Device Code: 17 Function: 237ext-1
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

Device Code: 17 Function: 238ext-2
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

Device Code: 17 Function: 239ext-3
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679


Device Code: 17 Function: 244ext-4
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

Device Code: 17 Function: 245ext-5
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679


Device Code: 17 Function: 248ext-6
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

If you can get these to work then great, else I'm back to the drawing board. Please post your results so that I can get them on the files section.

PS; they should not 'kill' the set!

Last edited by stereoguy823 on September 25, 2006 13:13.
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Post 11 made on Thursday September 28, 2006 at 13:09
hifiguy808
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I just wanted to let you know that I have tried out the IR codes and sorry to say that they don't function the new sharp LCD's. I have contacted Sharp and they don't have discretes yet.
you think you have seen the sun, but you have not seen it shine.
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Post 12 made on Friday September 29, 2006 at 01:47
stereoguy823
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Well, that is interesting.

I have now tried these on the latest LC-32GD8E with great success.

The data from which these codes has been created is from sharp in an excel file dated february this year. What model have you tried this on? What method did you use?

You say that sharp don't have discretes yet. YET? If they say not yet that must mean never!!
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Post 13 made on Thursday October 12, 2006 at 12:09
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I Just tested the discrete power commands with a Sharp LC-32D40U and they worked.

However, I noticed that the software in the LC-26D40U is different. The OSD was not the blue-themed input selection, but rather a white-on-black menu in the center of the screen. Looks like the firmware/software is different.

I will test these codes with that set in the near future...let's hope the discretes are accepted by the new chipset.

MC
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Post 14 made on Thursday December 14, 2006 at 06:34
Peter J. Gili
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On October 12, 2006 at 12:09, mqsack said...
I Just tested the discrete power commands with a Sharp
LC-32D40U and they worked.

However, I noticed that the software in the LC-26D40U
is different. The OSD was not the blue-themed input selection,
but rather a white-on-black menu in the center of the
screen. Looks like the firmware/software is different.

I will test these codes with that set in the near future...let's
hope the discretes are accepted by the new chipset.

MC

What discrete? Can you refernece it?

-Peter
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Post 15 made on Friday December 15, 2006 at 02:54
stereoguy823
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The discrete codes posted above perhaps? Have you tried them? I have, and they work not only with the GD8/9 series, but also now with the SD1 series too.

I KNOW that they work. I have cut and paste them into pronto edit, then learned them into MX Editor for an MX-850.
Sticking to what I'm good at.
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