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Sharp Aquos LC37GD6u (or any 26" or bigger) Discrete inputs?
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Post 16 made on Tuesday November 9, 2004 at 09:43
avdconsultants
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John,

Thanks for reviewing the spreadsheet data. The analysis and conversion of codes is certainly not my area of expertise, so I wonder if you would mind answering a couple of questions to clear up a little confusion on my part? In your last paragraph, you gave a conversion example of: 010100_10_10-->14A. Is each section reversed separately, then merged, then converted...or is it merged, then reversed as a whole, then converted?

Additionally, I'm confused about one step of the conversion of binary codes such as those shown in the spreadsheet above in to usable IR code format. Although I understand equivalent binary and hex alphanumeric values from a mathematical standpoint, I don't know how to make the next jump...for example getting from something like the hex value you show (e.g., 14A) to a sequence that is usable for remote commands, such as the codes posted by Galileo01 above:

Power On
Device Code: 17 Function: 74
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

Thanks.
Post 17 made on Tuesday November 9, 2004 at 10:02
johnsfine
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On 11/09/04 14:43 ET, avdconsultants said...
you gave a conversion example of: 010100_10_10-->14A.
Is each section reversed separately, then merged,
then converted...or is it merged, then reversed
as a whole, then converted?

Merge then reverse then convert. I didn't notice before that the example I picked is the same forward or reversed, so it's a poor example. Taking the next example:

101011_00_10 -> 1010110010 -> 0100110101 -> 01_0011_0101 -> 135

getting from something like
the hex value you show (e.g., 14A) to a sequence
that is usable for remote commands, such as the
codes posted by Galileo01 above:

I use my MakeHex program for that. I assume he used either MakeHex or some similar tool.

For MakeHex you must select a protocol (Sharp) and edit the .irp file to put in the desired device number (1 or 17 or 30) in decimal. Then use MakeHex the normal way to get a set of Pronto Hex strings labeled like:

Device Code: 17 Function: 74

with the Function in decimal, or use MakeHex with the -h switch to get the Functions labeled in hex.

For the specific example, the device was 11 hex, which is 17 decimal, and the function was 4A hex which is 74 decimal. The Sharp xls put a "1" in front of the hex for the function giving "14A" instead of "4A" because they were merging columns E, F and G to make that hex number but only columns E and F form the function number. Column G is part of the protocol identification.
Post 18 made on Tuesday November 9, 2004 at 12:08
avdconsultants
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Thank, John.
Post 19 made on Tuesday November 9, 2004 at 19:16
treacle
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Hi,

I'm still on the trail!

Having a problem with the makehex program now -- it dies (with a windows xp equivilent of a gpf) when I run it?

Any ideas?

Cheers,
Treac
Treacle
Post 20 made on Tuesday November 9, 2004 at 19:33
treacle
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Well fixed that -- had randomly deleted the Z in Zero in the irp file....

OK, so using the spreadsheet, and makehex, I worked out "Input 2" code to be

From sheet

100000110110010

Which using the conversion makes device code
00001 (32)

Function

110110 (54)

Makehex makes hex:
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

Which doesn't work :(

So providing my logic is correct, these codes don't work with my TV... Is that correct?
Treacle
Post 21 made on Tuesday November 9, 2004 at 20:30
johnsfine
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On 11/10/04 00:33 ET, treacle said...
100000110110010

Which using the conversion makes device code

00001 (32)

Where do you get 32 from? That device number is 1.


Function

110110 (54)

Right.
Post 22 made on Tuesday November 9, 2004 at 20:54
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Treacle,

00001 in binary is 1 in decimal- 32 decimal would be 100000 in binary.

So I believe you have the wrong device code. Also in the hex string you posted the device code is zero. Try MakeHex again with 1 as the device.

dwg
Post 23 made on Saturday November 13, 2004 at 20:45
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I am eargerly waiting for the Input commands, can't wait to see what you guys come up with.

I just set up a LC-32G4U for my parents with a Harmony 659 and would much prefer to use the discreet commands for inputs. You know, make this as easy as possible for them, and the discreet codes will make things much easier.

I can confirm that the PC Card comman works fine, but none of the Input 1-5 commands work on the 32G4U.
Post 24 made on Sunday November 14, 2004 at 00:24
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The command you posted is device=0 and function=54

I don't think you want device=32, rather device=1 (binary 00001). The Sharp protocol uses a five bit device that has a maximum value of 31 decimal. MakeHex only picks the five least significan bits of 32 decimal which is 0 decimal.

That command is posted in post 3 above.
Post 25 made on Wednesday November 17, 2004 at 05:29
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Hi,

You mentioned that you had discrete codes for the Aquos 20" and lower models. I have been searching for these for a while now, specifically on, off, and AV1, AV2 input codes, but with no success. Is it possible you could post these or mail them to me?

Good luck with your code conversions, you are a braver man than I !

Regards,

Nick
What do you mean you wanted it on the other wall - couldn't you have mentioned this when we prewired?
Post 26 made on Wednesday November 17, 2004 at 15:42
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I can confirm that galileo01's codes work for my Sharp LC37GD6U and my Harmony 768 remote (the Harmony has a Pronto code converter).
Post 27 made on Sunday December 12, 2004 at 16:59
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I've tried the discrete codes listed here on the Sharp LC-45GX6U & my Pronto NG and they work great!! All inputs function appropriately and like everyone elso has pointed out, the ON is discrete but the OFF is really a ON/OFF toggle.

Thanks.
Post 28 made on Sunday December 12, 2004 at 20:04
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I have received several requests by email to look at/decode the Sharp display commands. I went back through notes that I have and decodes in a number of threads ad found these command sets for discrete commands. Commands out of all these command sets have been reported to work on various models. So if you are missing one of the discrete commands try them all. For example the Sharp:13:52 Input 3 command used in Plasma displays was reported to work for an Aquos.

To hopefully reduce confusion, I have identified them by their protocol definition:device.sub-device:function. If those of you still looking for discrete commands find that some of these work, please respond by Sharp model model number and which Protocol:Device.Sub-device(if any):Function worked for what command so others can sort it out.

Sharp has used five different combinations:

Sharp:1, Sharp:13, Sharp:17, Sharp:30, and Kaseikyo-170.90:8.18.

The command sets are listed below followed by the Pronto hex for all of those commands:

hv4u
Sharp:1:50 Input1
Sharp:1:51 Input2
Sharp:1:52 Input3
Sharp:1:211 Input4
Sharp:17:74 Power On(only)
Sharp:17:75 Power Off(only)
Sharp:30:129 PC Direct

Clark Carty reported that Input 3 for the Sharp LC37HV4U is:

Sharp:13:052 Input 3

in this thread:

[Link: remotecentral.com]


lcd panel
Sharp:1:26 component 1
Sharp:1:50 video 1
Sharp:1:51 video 2
Sharp:13:52 video 3
Sharp:17:74 power on
Sharp:17:75 power off

e1u
Sharp:1:53 AV1
Sharp:1:54 AV2
Sharp:17:74 Power On
Sharp:17:75 Power Off
Sharp:30:131 Component
Sharp:30:200 CARD

A listing from Sharp posted at the custom installers forum
Sharp:1:211 Input4
Sharp:1:50 Input1
Sharp:1:51 Input2
Sharp:1:52 Input3
Sharp:17:74 Power On(only)
Sharp:17:75 Power Off(only)
Sharp:30:129 PC Direct

plasma display
Sharp:1:50 Input 1
Sharp:1:51 Input 2
Sharp:13:52 Input 3
Sharp:13:86 ON
Sharp:13:150 OFF

g4u
Sharp:1:53 Input1
Sharp:1:54 Input2
Sharp:1:55 Input3
Sharp:1:205 Input4
Sharp:17:74 Power On(only)
Sharp:17:75 Power Off(only)
Sharp:17:76 Input5

A ccf file posted by Impaqt
Sharp:1:53 IN1
Sharp:1:54 IN2
Sharp:1:131 COMP
Sharp:17:74 ON
Sharp:17:75 OFF
Kaseikyo-170.90:8.18:74 ON
Kaseikyo-170.90:8.18:75 OFF

SHARP PROTOCOL

Device Code: 1 Function: 26
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 1 Function: 50
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 1 Function: 51
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 1 Function: 52
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 1 Function: 53
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 1 Function: 54
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 1 Function: 55
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 1 Function: 131
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 1 Function: 205
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 1 Function: 211
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 13 Function: 52
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 13 Function: 86
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 13 Function: 150
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 17 Function: 74
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 17 Function: 75
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 17 Function: 76
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 30 Function: 129
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 30 Function: 131
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679
Device Code: 30 Function: 200
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0679

KASEIKYO-170.90 PROTOCOL

Device Code: 8.18 Function: 74
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0ACE
Device Code: 8.18 Function: 75
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0ACE

This message was edited by jarmstrong on 12/12/04 23:39 ET.
Post 29 made on Tuesday January 4, 2005 at 14:34
sascher
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I have both Sharp LC-45GD6U & LC-26GD6U and am seeking discrete on/off codes. I would appreciate receiving your excel spreadsheet. May I ask where you received this from? Has anyone yet converted this to a ccf file? Has anyone had success yet? Has Sharp indicated whether or not a discrete off code exists for the G series TVs?
Thanks!
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