Thanks dwg. Good luck, let us know how it turns out.

Any luck with getting those discretes? I'm trying to get my mx700 to do the same thing, switch from component to s-vid.

I finally had time to run the other sub devices that Jon identified (32,33,36) and came up empty.

dwg

I just searched over at AVS forums and here is a thread that seems to confirm no discrete inputs:

[Link: avsforum.com]

Also "jbrandwood" there has searched additional sub-devices 0,4,5,7,8,9,10,11 without finding them. Apparently is does work well with RS-232 control.

-Jon

This message was edited by jarmstrong on 10/03/03 14:38.

Jon,

It does have discrete power- they are the same as posted previously for other Pansonic plasmas. I think I'll run sub-device 8 codes just to double check as in the avs thread "jbrandwood" said he found discrete power again on that sub-device, which seems quite odd. Thanks for the link.

dwg

dwg,

Thanks for the correction, I'll read my links more carefully :) I will edit my previous post to reduce the confusion.

Repeat commands in sub-device 8 are curious. I had seen some examples where they repeated (like above where 222 repeats in sub-device 4 (00000100) and 36 (00100100) and my theory WAS that maybe it ignored the top 4-bit nibble).

As you probably know, Panasonic appears to be a subset of the Kaysekio protocol and what we consider the bottom 4-bits of the Device code is a check byte derived from the XOR of the two "fixed" 8 bit bytes 0x02 and 0x20 taken four bits at a time and is 0x0. Hence there are only 16 possible, valid device codes (all multiples of 16), but AFAIK, the sub-device is 8-bits. So, after all this only 244 sub-devices left for device 128 =:-)

-Jon

I ran sub device 8 and indeed the power commands are present-Power toogle, Discrete On and Discrete Off. Nothing else however.

oh well- onward

dwg

Thanks for the effort, dwg.

I have the info you all are looking for. I need to forward them as they are files directly from Panasonic. Does anyone have an email i can forward to (Snipeman) or where can i post?

Joe

[email protected]

I'd like a copy of these files as well, I just got a TSU3000 that's begging to get programmed. My email is [email protected]

Joe,

Please email them to me as well I will translate and post them. My email address is in my profile.

Thanks,

-Jon

Joe was kind enough to forward the information he had from Panasonic. There were three files the first two were commands in hex and the third was the technical description of Panasonic's version of the Kaseikyo IR protocol. That Protocol document was consistent with the Panasonic protocol defined in John Fine and Barry Gordon's Pronto hex generators, MakeHex and GenIRDB. The first file did not have a device sub-device defined but it is clearly 128.0.

There were no model numbers contained in any of the documentation but I have put the file names above them.

Unfortunately my guess is that the first file "PDP_Kaseikyo Codes.doc" is specifically for these Plasma Displays and the second file "digital remocon_code.doc" is a more generic listing of remote control codes. It does specifically define what we call device and sub-device


PDP_Kaseikyo Codes.doc

128.0

HEX DEC
0x05 005 INPUT
0x06 006 PICTURE
0x07 007 SOUND
0x20 032 VOLUME UP
0x21 033 VOLUME DOWN
0x31 049 SURROUND
0x32 050 MUTE
0x39 057 RECALL
0x3D 061 POWER ON/OFF
0x4A 074 CURSOR UP
0x4B 075 CURSOR DOWN
0x4E 078 CURSOR LEFT
0x4F 079 CURSOR RIGHT
0x52 082 SET UP
0x0C 012 --Normal
0xD4 212 --Return
0x49 073 ACTION
0xE5 229 PICTURE POS/SIZE
0xDE 222 ASPECT
0x7A 122 PC
0x0F 015 OFF TIMER


digital remocon_code.doc

128.0

0x00 000 TV
0x01 001 VIDEO1
0x02 002 VIDEO2
0x03 003 VIDEO3
0x04 004 VIDEO4
0x05 005 TV/VIDEO
0x10�`19 16~25 TENKEY 1�`9,0
0x1A 026 TENKEY 11 (FOR FACTORY ADJ, WX UNAVAILABLE)
0x1B 027 TENKEY 12 (FOR FACTORY ADJ, WX UNAVAILABLE)
0x20 032 VOLUME5
0x21 033 VOLUME6
0x32 050 MUTE
0x33 051 SAP (MPX)
0x34 052 CH5
0x35 053 CH6
0x37 055 QUICK VIEW
0x38 056 SEARCH
0x39 057 RECALL
0x3D 061 POWER ON/OFF
0x3E 062 POWER ON
0x3F 063 POWER OFF
0x4A 074 DIAMOND ARROW5
0x4B 075 DIAMOND ARROW6
0x4E 078 DIAMOND ARROW3
0x4F 079 DIAMOND ARROW4
0x52 082 MENU
0x5B 091 FD
0x5C 092 FREEZE ON/OFF
0x5D 093 PIP ON/OFF
0x5E 094 PICTURE SWAP
0x64 100 PIP CH5
0x65 101 PIP CH6
0x67 103 PIP MOVE
0x7E 126 BBE ON/OFF
0xE6 230 SPLIT ON/OFF
0xFF 255 SELF CHECK

128.4
0x7C 124 COMPONENT1
0x7D 125 COMPONENT2
0xB0 176 DIGITAL-IN
0xC9 201 ASPECT ZOOM(HX UNAVAILABLE)
0xD1 209 ASPECT FULL(HX UNAVAILABLE)
0xDE 222 ASPECT(HX UNAVAILABLE)

128.9
0xA9 169 PIP MAX
0xAA 170 PIP MIN

Since "dwg" and "jbrandwood" have tried every command in all three of these device/sub-device combinations there may not be a solution for some of the Plasma Displays.

I had a couple of thoughts on workarounds. If the PC command will take you to that input, Perhaps a macro for PC|Video Toggle|...|Video Toggle can take you the various video inputs by varying the number of video toggle commands after the PC command.

There is an "Off timer" command so if "off timer" brings up a menu to select the number of minutes and seconds, then you could create a macro using off timer by setting the minimum possible time. There is a Return command that looks like it could get out of the
menu mode. Obviously, I don't have the hardware so these may or may not be useful ideas.

-Jon

Jon,

I currently use your first suggestion - my macro selects "PC" then repeats "INPUT" until it gets to where it needs to go.

I wanted to speed it up with discrete input - going all the way to the 2nd component takes a while.

So is it pretty comprehensive answer then that there are no discretes for DVI and SVIDIO on this plasma?

Andy

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Yes, this workaround does work; I just set up my
tsu3000 to work this way. Since my 6UY has 4 video
inputs, it can take 4 IR commands to get to the desired
input. Typically, one also wants their video receiver
to switch audio inputs at the same time. This makes
5 IR commands at once, which takes a few seconds on
my system. Discrete codes sure would be nice...

Ditto what bcc said, plus I add discrete on for the plasma to my macro. So I actually execute up to 6 commands.

On my MX500 with 0 delay, it still can take several seconds.

How could Panasonic's new current flagship plasma's have discrete on/off, and not input selection? Seems nuts to me.

Andy