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trouble using two wireless routers
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Topic: | trouble using two wireless routers This thread has 16 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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Post 1 made on Monday August 28, 2006 at 19:24 |
tweetymp4 Select Member |
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Thought I would try here before Tech support as you guys can offer many different pionts of view where tech support usually offers one solution and often is not right.
I am using a wireless router (D-Link DI-624) which has three of the four wired ports feeding computers without problem. The Wireless portion is also being used without problem. This setup is fed through a cable modem on the wan port.
I would like to feed a second wireless router (D-link di524) in another part of the building. There is a cat5 line from the first router to the second. I hooked this wire to the fourth port of the first router and then into one of the ports on the second router. I configured the second router without problem. I can plug several PC's to the second router without any issues....networking and internet work fine. The wireless portion of the second router connects with any pc I use but I can not get internet. The routers are set with different IP addresses and have different SSID's. Neither has uplink ports. Also of note, I am using a "straight thru" configuration to connect the routers.
It seems to me if the wired part is working, the wireless should too. If I connect the second router to the cable modem directly via the wan port, everything works fine.....If I connect the second router to the first via the wan port, nothing works. I have also used two different units for the second router to rule out defects (all routers are using current firmware)
I know I can just replace the second router with a switch and then add an access point, or I can use Coaxis, or I can use Auragrid etc etc etc. I learn so much from issues like this I would love to know what I am doing wrong.
Anybody out there have some insight?
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I'm Not an engineer, but I play one on TV. My handle is Tweety but I have nothing to do with the organization of similar name. I just had a really big head as a child so folks called me tweety bird. |
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Post 2 made on Monday August 28, 2006 at 19:34 |
AVXpressions Senior Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2002 1,163 |
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You have to configure the wireless section of the router to be a Wireless access point. The router is set up to bridge between the wireless antenna and the wan port. You have nothing plugged into the wan port and this is why you connect but do not get on the internet. Not sure how to do this in D-Link as I don't use that brand but the manual will probably tell you. If not then tech support should be able to set you straight in just a few minutes.
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OP | Post 3 made on Monday August 28, 2006 at 20:41 |
tweetymp4 Select Member |
Joined: Posts: | March 2003 2,139 |
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thanks, I'll check that out
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I'm Not an engineer, but I play one on TV. My handle is Tweety but I have nothing to do with the organization of similar name. I just had a really big head as a child so folks called me tweety bird. |
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Post 4 made on Monday August 28, 2006 at 20:46 |
brandenpro Select Member |
Joined: Posts: | May 2005 1,651 |
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Watch out for double nat if you need to forward any ports.
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Post 5 made on Monday August 28, 2006 at 20:53 |
installtech Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2005 92 |
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You're right, if the wired ports are working, the wireless should be working. Are you using a static IP on the PC's connected to the wired ports, but DHCP on the wireless? If that's the case, the DCHP server would assign its IP address (the IP address of the second router) as the DNS server. Just a guess. Try connecting to the second router wirelessly, then enter an external IP address (Google's is 72.14.203.99) in the address bar. If you get Google, go into the second router's setup and disable the DHCP server.
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Post 6 made on Monday August 28, 2006 at 21:04 |
shnakz69 Active Member |
Joined: Posts: | February 2006 737 |
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DCHP is having an IP conflict with 2 wireless routers both trying to assign ip addresses to computers trying to log on.. depending on your router you must disable the dhcp server in one of the routers and use it as an access point, that way only the original router is assigning ip addresses
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Post 7 made on Monday August 28, 2006 at 21:34 |
hobo Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2004 36 |
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How about this. Get rid of the second router and just get a dlink WAP.Done good night.
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Post 8 made on Monday August 28, 2006 at 21:50 |
femi Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2002 153 |
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iirc, the DI-624 can not be used as a WAP. see hobo's response & get a DWL 2100AP [Link: dlink.com] I have good luck with these
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Post 9 made on Monday August 28, 2006 at 21:55 |
mickdawg Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2002 92 |
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Linksys routers have the ability to switch between gateway and router configurations. This would be a solution.
Most routers function as gateways or transition points between the extenal network (internet) and internal network. Most routers direct traffic on the internal network. A lot of routers are actually gateways and don't function too well when nothing is plugged into their wan port.
The best idea is too get a wap or switch. The second router is overkill and can cause more headaches than anything else.
Good luck
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OP | Post 10 made on Tuesday August 29, 2006 at 00:58 |
tweetymp4 Select Member |
Joined: Posts: | March 2003 2,139 |
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On August 28, 2006 at 21:34, hobo said...
How about this. Get rid of the second router and just get a dlink WAP.Done good night. Because my obsessive compulsive nature will not let me. I know of about five work arounds I can do......I just had this stuff sitting around the office and just hooked em up. I swear I have had this working in the past. I really would like to figure it out....I like many here can take everyone else's ideas and come up with a solution. Hope to do this here.
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I'm Not an engineer, but I play one on TV. My handle is Tweety but I have nothing to do with the organization of similar name. I just had a really big head as a child so folks called me tweety bird. |
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Post 11 made on Tuesday August 29, 2006 at 06:38 |
djnorm Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2002 1,693 |
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I never claimed to be a networking wiz, but I do remember one thing: don't plug a router into a router. The way it was explained to me, it may work, but you will still have problems from time to time. A switch instead or, (as others have suggested) turning the router into a switch with the setup software seems to be the right thing to do here.
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Post 12 made on Wednesday August 30, 2006 at 11:08 |
core_techx Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2003 247 |
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Like someone else on here said you need to configure the router as an access point. if the router doesn't have a feature that let's you do it automatically you should
1.) assign the same SSID 2.) spread the channels out as far as you can 3.) disable DHCP
depending on the router the hardwired connection between the two may need to plug into either the internet port or one of the lan ports.
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Post 13 made on Wednesday August 30, 2006 at 23:03 |
phil Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 2,164 |
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Bite the bullet. Spend an hour on hold for tech service at dlink. They will fix your problem but you will never understand how. I just went though a similar problem. After trying many fixes they had me set the 2nd router's address to 4.4.4.2. Go figure. Forced me to go back to school for some router classes. I am hoping to be able to apply logic to these types of problems but I think they will forever remain black magic.
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OP | Post 14 made on Thursday August 31, 2006 at 02:48 |
tweetymp4 Select Member |
Joined: Posts: | March 2003 2,139 |
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Well, I solved the problem. I found a Netgear router at the office that we bought for a job and then for one reason or another it did not get used. I went into the config and turned DHCP. It worked right off the bat.
I put it in place of the d-link and it worked there as well. I have not had the time to reconfigure the d-link in the same manner to see if it works.
THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE HELP....I GOOGLED JUST ABOUT WHAT EVERYONE HAS SUGGESTED AND LEARNED TONS!
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I'm Not an engineer, but I play one on TV. My handle is Tweety but I have nothing to do with the organization of similar name. I just had a really big head as a child so folks called me tweety bird. |
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Post 15 made on Thursday August 31, 2006 at 07:16 |
skyflyer007 Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2004 279 |
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I do this all the time. Let the first router be the DHCP server. Do not plug into the WAN port on the 2nd router. I always go from the first router to port 1, but it doesnt matter. I also make it a point to use Links-- as they are easy to configure to do this. I also make it a point to assign static IP's to any device permanently connected to this network. I had a customer with 3 Mac computers and 2 MAC laptops in the same home who wanted to add 7 different locations of the ROKU media servers. House was solid concrete and 3 stories high. He did however have CAT5 to each location where he wanted a server. It took me 2 days to get it up and working, then his MAC guy (so called expert) comes in and screws everything up. It worked great after I assigned static IP's to every device and he could even share his IPOD when he plugged it into the MAC.
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