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Yamaha Zone2 question
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Post 1 made on Wednesday January 8, 2003 at 21:33
eejay30470
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I have posed this question to Yamaha but they have yet to respond:

Can I use the Zone2 support on my RX-V3000 to allow remote control of the recording source. My idea is to route the Zone2 out back in through the VCR2 connections and leave the record source selector set to VCR2. Will this work?
Post 2 made on Thursday January 9, 2003 at 00:44
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Huh? I figured out the following answer, then I realized that I have no clue what you mean by "allow remote control of the recording source." Could I perhaps correctly rephrase that as "allow me to remotely choose which source I record" ? ?

Let me start at the recorder. You propose to feed the recorder with a signal from VCR2 Record out. The VCR2 Record Out jacks will output a signal from every source connected to the receiver EXCEPT the signal connected to VCR2 IN, so this is the ONE thing that cannot possibly work.

Why not just connect the Zone 2 output to the VCR input? Forget the middleman, so to speak. If you are considering connecting the Zone 2 output to something to make this work, then you have no problem with the fact that the volume on this source can be adjusted. Just connect it this way, then make some test recordings with the volume up most of the way. If there is NO distortion in the audio, you are set.
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OP | Post 3 made on Thursday January 9, 2003 at 13:45
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Maybe I wasn't clear. I have multiple recording devices, and I have multiple sources. I would like to use my remote control (Pronto) to choose which source is routed to ALL the recording inputs. This is normally done with a selector switch on the front panel of the Yamaha RX-V3000. I proposed setting this switch to VCR2 permanently since I don't actually have a 2nd VCR. I am wondering if I can route the Zone2 output to the VCR2 input on the receiver to accomplish remote selection of the source for recording.

I was hoping to get someone with specific knowledge of how this might work with Yamaha equipment, since I know Zone2 is implemented differently by different manufacturers.

Post 4 made on Thursday January 9, 2003 at 13:55
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If the Recording Selector knob has an option where you can set it to VCR 2 then I don't see why shouldn't be able to loop the Zone2 outputs into VCR 2....... could hook up a little monitor to the vcr 2 output and try it and let us know if it works.

Or just take the zone 2 outputs and go into an A/V distribution amp to split it out if you have to go to several components.

Nick
Post 5 made on Thursday January 9, 2003 at 19:53
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I"d like to know if it worked out?
Post 6 made on Thursday January 9, 2003 at 22:57
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I'm a home theater desinger in NY who exclusivley uses Yamaha receivers. I'm also on the yamaha advisory board. If you would like to email me I'll help, but your post are not clear as to what you want to do. My email is [email protected].
Post 7 made on Friday January 10, 2003 at 09:13
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What EEJAY wants to do is find a way around having to use the knob on the Yamaha front panel to select recording source. He wants to be able to do it by using his Pronto instead, so he doesn't have to approach the receiver.

He wants to leave the recording selector to VCR 2, and use the Zone 2 output, which can be selected using a remote, and thereby be able to record whatever is selected as Zone 2 source. It seems to me that it should work as long as he never selects VCR 2 as recording source.

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Post 8 made on Friday January 10, 2003 at 12:58
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I would suggest placing the dial in "Remote" (Straight Up)
This allows remote selection of the rec out. you can set the Factory yamaha remote to output "Zone 2 commands" these can then be learned into your pronto.

Post 9 made on Friday January 10, 2003 at 20:54
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Impaqt's answer is the best of the bunch. Except that then he has to listen to whatever he is recording at the moment.

I vote for just taking the Zone 2 out to a distribution amp (now that we know that more than one recorder is involved).

And conceptually, there is a problem with routing the Zone2 output to the VCR2 input on the receiver to accomplish remote selection of the source. I thought my answer was clear on this, but here is more.

You can. But whatever is plugged into the VCR2 input will NOT come out the VCR2 record output. Think about it -- how could you use this? You would normally use the VCR2 input for playback of VCR2. If that signal came out the VCR2 record output, then you could record whatever is coming out of VCR2, which, if you are in the record mode, is...nothing, or usually video feedback, since you have made a loop. So the receiver is made so that the VCR2 input CANNOT be selected to come out of the VCR 2 Record Output to his recorders. It might look like you have selected it, but there will be no signal there.

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Post 10 made on Saturday January 11, 2003 at 18:23
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Ernie has just shed some light onto the question of how did Dark Helmut hook up his AV system in the movie Space Balls... this has always confounded me.

IF you set the record output to video AUX AND plugged zone2 output into video AUX, that should work, no? ...at least if you only have 2 recording devices (VCR1 and VCR2) and do not plan on actually using zone2 for a second zone. The only thing to avoid is ever selecting video AUX as the zone2 source, or else...
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Post 11 made on Tuesday January 14, 2003 at 00:33
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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tsvisser sez, among other stuff: "The only thing to avoid is ever selecting video AUX as the zone2 source, or else..."

Your approach is perfect. Going back to the original question, this will work perfectly. But so will just taking the Zone 2 output directly to the DA that feeds the several recorders. Why are we still suggesting other ways to do this?

I do appreciate the reference to my earlier work in SpaceBalls. That has sadly been overlooked. But I DO know where the actual place where they got the parts to make the original flux capacitor for Back To The Future!
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Post 12 made on Tuesday January 14, 2003 at 09:08
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Post 13 made on Saturday January 18, 2003 at 03:13
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I thought that with some receivers the same switching circuitry handles zone 2 OR record out but when you use one, it disables the other? So, he could enable zone 2 output but would not have use of selectable record out (or vice-versa).

I don't know Yamahas as well, but that's what I recall on some Onkyos. I haven't tried the most recent ones.
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OP | Post 14 made on Tuesday January 21, 2003 at 11:43
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Thanks for all your assistance. I was finally able to get Yamaha to talk to me even though I am a consumer and not a custom installer... I have decided against using the Zone2 output since it is a variable output and I don't want to introduce any unneccesary signal degradation in the circuit.

I also had a heck of a time getting an answer out of them on the operation of the "home bank" "memory bank" and "recall bank" extended IR functions. They seemed to think no consumer would ever want to understand how these worked.


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