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| Topic: | The low voltage shame... This thread has 28 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 29. |
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| OP | Post 16 made on Saturday June 24, 2006 at 21:48 |
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On June 24, 2006 at 21:42, mr2channel said...
I live in Richmond, and Nags Head is only 3 hrs
away and my wife's family lives down there, and
I have been going to the outerbanks since their
was only one stop light and one grocery store...and
I will say that the pool of selection for low
voltage tech firms does not exist...they have
ONE company promoting LV services and I cannot
vouch for the quality of their work...but I do
know they lines they carry, and it ain't Crestron
or Levinson!
From what I have seen the builders use the electricians
alot. If it is a home being built for the specific
purpose to be rented out ( as you have read above
their is alot of $$$ to be made) those homes get
just enough to make it a selling point on an ad.
If it is a custom home the builders seem to
either say no to the client or the client brings
it up too late for any real company to get down
their and do the work.
I have done a few nice jobs down on the outer
banks but most people that do look into it find
that per diem makes the job too costly, no matter
if the A/V firm is from Richmond, or the VA Beach
area, or as a last resort the Raleigh area, and
at least from the Richmond/VA Beach area the client
only has to choose between maybe six to ten REAL
A/V firms (I am not counting new upstarts, with
no experience or our good ol' lectrician...and
lets not forget the alarm guys)
I have thought about moving to the outerbanks
and making a go at it, but the real issue comes
down to having enough REAL business to keep a
REAL A/V firm going, most of the time the work
is done by whomever is the cheapest. Truely ashame
though if you go through the Duck/Corolla area
you will find many, many million dollar beach
homes and countless multimillion dollar pads,
most are rented out!
If anyone knows of a friend or family in need
of work in the outer banks and they want a real
system...my firm is for hire and do travel...all
we ask is regular rates and per diem. This in the Corolla area, Whaleshead I believe. I wish I knew about this a little earlier, but hindsite is 20/20...
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| Post 17 made on Saturday June 24, 2006 at 21:55 |
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On June 24, 2006 at 21:42, mr2channel said...
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I have been going to the outerbanks since their
was only one stop light and one grocery store... We Willy Winks Baby!!! I remember it too. Talk to Kevin (OEX) about owning/running an AV company in a vacation area where there is lots of building going on. I think it could be done in the Outer Banks.
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| Post 18 made on Saturday June 24, 2006 at 21:58 |
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Well Roddy retrofits are possible...but a real B*%ch due to the code requirements that are in place to make the homes safe for hurricanes...
I did a retrofit for a friend of mine's mom because the builder was an ass and did not allow an outside firm in until after the home was out of his hands and when we went to fish the right surround wiring, it was an exterior wall that had, no kidding three sheets thick of 3/4" plywood and Z shaped cross bracing up the entire wall...granted it was a 2 1/2 story wall (vaulted ceiling) that was all glass from the second story up.
to sum it up retrofits end up costing at least 2X-3X as much as new construction + per diem.
I normally don't do clean up work...but for you Roddy, I will, just let me know if you want me to go down and tighten up what he has.
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| Post 19 made on Saturday June 24, 2006 at 22:01 |
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Figure Eight Island and Wrightsville Beach near Wilmington are also areas where I have seen disgraceful work for the caliber of homes in the area.
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| Post 20 made on Saturday June 24, 2006 at 22:06 |
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Even though it's about a 7 hour ride for me, I would do work on the outer banks as well, since I have a place to stay in Buxton.
I actually enjoy doing jobs out of town. It's nice to wow the locals......
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| Post 21 made on Saturday June 24, 2006 at 22:15 |
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Hey I have a great idea! lets have an IP party on the outerbanks! everyone quick...gather up your free airline miles, we are staying w/ Roddy's girls parents! :)
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| OP | Post 22 made on Saturday June 24, 2006 at 22:34 |
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Well if I play my cards might I have part of this someday. Forget about retroing this place, 4 stories. It would be a nightmare to say the least. Not really where I was going with this thread.
But if I am planing a trip out here to deal with this I will give you guys first option at helping me out, I get to stay here for free:)
I think we could find a room or two for some help, there are 10 bedrooms after all.
I seeing places built all over the place down here and they have to valued in the multi millions. I had to rant and let those on the forum know just in case they ever wanted to move out here. I am happy where I am at and for the time being have more work than what I know what to do with. So I will being staying put.
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| Post 23 made on Sunday June 25, 2006 at 00:27 |
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On June 24, 2006 at 12:23, roddymcg said...
My girlfriend's dad buys this 8,000 sq ft house
with like 10 bedrooms on the outerbanks, NC. and you haven't married her yet why?
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| OP | Post 24 made on Sunday June 25, 2006 at 07:51 |
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On June 25, 2006 at 00:27, AHEM said...
and you haven't married her yet why? Never once claimed to be smart... lol Her birthday present this year was to fly me out here, I like her birthdays. Time to pack up and go home, I have about 6 straight weeks, including weekends it looks like, on the board plus the service calls that I got while I was here. Back to reality...
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| Post 25 made on Sunday June 25, 2006 at 09:06 |
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Its funny. I work on many houses worth $5 million plus. you'd be shocked at corners the homeowners cut. I di one with a million $$ siding package. 1 1/2 marble on the entire house. They eliminated the motors/jets in all the whirlpool tubs because when people come to look they won't even notice and wont be any less impressed. They eliminated phone jacks to save money. Structured cable, speaker wiring, wouldn't even be considered.
I just finished one worth >$8 million with 3 six gang switches in the master bedroom. Homeowner absolutely did not want lighting control. PERIOD
Don't be quick to blame the builders or electricians. Lighting control in my area is not something wanted but something actually requested not to have. I have seen many systems installed and ripped out and settled in court. Coreo, phast, grafik eye/homeworks abortion, and more. I've seen Crestron problems that the factory came out to try and fix. As a group, there has been a lot of customer unstaisfaction with this genre of product.
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| Post 26 made on Sunday June 25, 2006 at 16:36 |
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Look at other areas of the house and you will find sub-standard items and installations. Even if the house claimed to have high-end plumbing fixtures you will find the builder installed lower-middle end plumbing fixtures and claimed they were high-end. It goes on and on, the only area they spend money is for eye-candy, what the buyer can see. If it looks good, shiney and similar to being in style they will install it, if it is hidden in the walls they will use the cheapest they can get away with such as 3/8 OSB board under the shingles. They will have taken their money and be long gone by the time the roof looks like a scrub-board as the OSB sags between the rafters/trusses.
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| Post 27 made on Sunday June 25, 2006 at 16:56 |
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On June 25, 2006 at 16:36, EXT said...
Look at other areas of the house and you will
find sub-standard items and installations. Yes! I find that people who invest in quality do it universally. The correct, minimal technology is a fundamental reflection of quality. If they're skimping on that, they're skimping on much more.
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| Post 28 made on Sunday June 25, 2006 at 19:48 |
I hate to say it but when im on vaca. Ill take the 5 fridgs fully stocked with cold beer over the techno headaches 7 day aweek and twice on sunday. We all chose where to skimp.
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| Post 29 made on Monday June 26, 2006 at 09:08 |
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Roddy, all I can think about is that Bud Light commercial with the revolving frig. LMAO!
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