That's some AVS forum member's psuedo-science horse shit... Detail is detail... If the image has more pixels, it is capable of more detail.

Can you see the difference between an ED and an HD plasma on a high quality HD signal?? Of course you can, anyone can...

So all of the sudden, 720P (even on a 100"+ diagonal image) is the threshold of eyesight, and the eye cannot pickup more detail??

Professional photographers replacing the film backs on medium format (Mamiya, Hasselblad, etc.) cameras with digital backs consider 15 megapixel backs to be the minimum to be photorealistic...

This is for images that will be "developed" (printed) at about 1/50th the size of the average screen sizes.

The 720P image is .9 megapixel, and the 1080P image is still barely over 2 megapixels... They WILL get better than this.

So images that are 1/50th the size are generated from digital images with 7.5x more pixels??

Digital projectors have made huge strides, but they are only going to get better...

The JVC technology goes way beyond just the "rainbow" issue vs. DLP. Based on the hinged mirror chips in single chip DLP's, the "screen door" image is much more annoying. And don't be lulled into "Brightness" spec's as some projector manufacturers measure at the lens, others at the screen.

How are you getting more detail out of a 480P signal, folks? The scaler is interpolating extra data where it does not exist. Rick wishes to call that more detail but it is more than pixels and at what point are enough pixels enough? I think 720P has more than sufficinet resolution to interpolate detail in a 480P image. Most importantly, video is not static as is a picture, so I'd argue that photography is not a fair comparison unless you are pausing a DVD of "Basic Instinct" at just the moment Sharron Stone is uncrossing her legs. Gray scale unfortunately does matter and might matter a whole lot more than the maximum number of pixels per square milimeter a particular chip can display. However, we are comparing apples and pears. A single chip DLP is hardly a match for a LCOS projector. Concomitantly, I'd suggest that an InFocus 777 is hardly in the same class as a Sim2 C3X or a Digital Projection Mecury even if they are using the same TI chip set. More is involved in producing a satisfying image than just the chip and its native resoluton. The video processing is even more important--as Fujitus has shown with its plasmas and my favorite KDS video card with the Pioneer glass.

Still there are issues of supporting CI friendly companies that ought to be on every small guys mind. We have a thread here about C4 and what ever your opinion of its status in terms of it being ready for prime time do you really wish to support a company dedicated to destrying this industry? We all know that if there is insufficient profit in a job we cannot perform the miracles most jobs require and C4 is attempting to gut the bottom lines of companies trying to play at the automation game. JVC is a bottom line company and CI is not a bottom line business--though C4 would sure like to make it so. D-ILA is so superior to single chip DLP it's not funny. But is it worth doing business with a company who thinks its bread is buttered at Best Buy. This is not a simple question and simply going for the short term, easy answer of the better projector technology may have some tragic long terms consequences--even for super large distributers like AVID. But I'll take a C3X over the JVC any day. But the C3X is a 3 chip display not a single chip. I have not seen a D-ILA since Infocom 1999. I will not argue with Rick's assertion that it is a great projector. I do argue that it is inherently superior just because it is a native 1080P panel. The panel is not all.

Alan

Remember the first time you saw a good Criterion laserdisc played back on a Pioneer Elite player through a Faroudja quadrupler (960P) and into a 9" CRT projector (Ampro in this case) and displayed on a Stewart screen??

I do... It dropped my jaw to the floor.

I can tell you that the interlaced Runco/Zenith that we had in our showroom looked like a Yugo compared to that setup.

That was 480i, and it was an analog COMPOSITE image that passed through a freakin' comb filter...

It may be one of the best projected video images I have seen in my life.


The HD2K definitely looks better than the HX2U which has the same projection system, even on DVDs...


Agreed.


To be fair, the JVC Pro line is not in any National retail accounts...


Once again, I agree... but with a caveat.
I guess I should say that I would rather own a 720P HD-ILA rear pro than a "wobulated" 1080P RPTV from Samsung, HP, etc....

I would reconsider after spending some time with the new generation of true 1080P DLP sets. My guess is that they will outclass the 720P HD-ILA on high def material and DVDs, but I doubt that they will come anywhere close to the performance of the 1080P HD-ILAs.

god i miss my ampro projectors, they were awsome especially tide to a faroudja scaler..... i have a 2600 in the garage that needs to be fixed.

maybe someday i will get it fixed, blue gun does not turn on. then pick up an old faroudja scaler.

that makes such a sweetassed image. better than any old dlp, dila or lcd projo i have seen.

but its nice to not have to converge every single input and every single format...

ed

Ed, that setup I was describing was demo'ed by Brian from Select who I am sure you also dealt with back in the day.

I miss that guy, he was one of the first reps who really understood the custom game and promoted it religiously. I probably wouldn't have pursued custom if he didn't come around all the time back in the early/mid 90s and share all of the stories of the cool state-of-the-art projects in the larger markets.

He brought the very first Escient tunebase system into our place for an after hours seminar back in like '96 (??). By the time it was done we all scratched our heads and wondered "who the hell would want that??"

You might be a bit disappointed. The new TI 1080P chip set is marketing hype as far as I am concerned. They will be single chip units with color wheels--BUT 1080P!!!. Give me the 3 chip 720P TI chips and you can have your pick of LCOS units. I stick with the 3 chip DLPs

Alan

Hi Matt
could you send to me the HT305E specs.

Thank you
Best wishees

Alfred

Any variation on opinion with the sim2 c3x-lite? Does it have enough lite output for a 110" screen with some ambient light?

Is the 110" the diagnal or the width. A 110 diagnal is 53x95 and the CX3- lite will be spectacular. 110w x 62h will still look fabulous. If you are overly concerned you could choose a material like the Stewart Firehawk but I doubt that will be necessary. The only difference between the lite and the C3X is light output.

Alan

Wednesday I went to look at a demo one of my suppliers had set up using a C3X - lite , Krell showcase, Triad In room Gold LCR, Triad Silver In Room for surrounds, 2 Gold subs, Screen Innovations 100" screen, Denon 5910 DVD, and a Toshiba HD DVD.

The C3X Lite is an outstanding projector with great light output compared to any of their previous models. I have been using Sim2 for about 3 years and am a big fan, but they were always a very low light projector. I think the lite is 1600 compared to 2500 on the C3X and C3X Link.