I'm new to the line. We have a pre/pro+amp for theatre and a CT602 currently in our testing phase.

I've just managed to get my head around most of the CT602/CK1.2 programming. I'm used to RTI, and as many of you know, the RTI programming environment is superb... but I'm starting to get the hang on the new model now.

A couple of questions.

1). Assuming each keypad's program in a system is unique (which would be rare I realize), do you need to save each keypad as a separate file? Or is there a way to see the WHOLE picture...? In RTI, you can have one system file, which may contain any number of processors, remotes and keypads.

2). Is there something wrong with my system, or does it always take 30sec - 1min to download a program into a keypad?

3) Is there any way to get volume feedback on the keypad, while changing the volume? Or do you HAVE to press the status/light button (twice)?

The gear looks great, sounds great, and is very powerful. So we're happy about that....

However, as I'm very familiar with RTI, I do find the programming a bit cumbersome.

I realize that I could use RTI keypads to run the system.... but hey, the B and K keypads are pretty nice feeling... seem to work well, and WOW are they ever affordable.... imo.

Each keypad produces a unique file. The whole picture would be in the mind of the programmer. :-)

Seems like a long time for a download.

No volume feedback while changing volume.

Use RTI as the step up keypad, with more capabilities. Doesn't RTI support RS-232 and two-way communication? You could use the serial output of the CT to run a volume display on the keypad, and have a step up feature to talk about with clients.

The down load time is a real drag. The keypad is based on the MX-700 remote ,, and the download is the same.

I think they will eventually be basing the key pads on the new mx-900/950 remote The mx 900 editor is incredible. for a 450 dollar remote its awesome.

as for the keypads I usually hide zone codes on mains page 2 and just punch-through needed codes / or drag and drop devices from the hidden main page 2 the the main page 1 depending on what zone they will or will not be used in.

Also learn the import/export function. very very powerfull.

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There are a lot of ways to accomplish this. You can program every kepypad with the same exact B&K IR code (128) and only that zone kepypad port will turn on. Or you can configure the keypad with a specific B&K IR code (i.e. 11-16 for zones A-F respectively) and configure those zones to only respond to those respective IR codes - however any zone wil repond to a code of 128 or 000 (all zones will repsond to 000 which is a whole house code).

I sometimes make minor keypad programming changes specific to certain zones for various reasons (i.e. I will sometimes turn off the IR eye in certain zone keypads), but will usually always use IR code 128 for all kepyads. It is sometimes handy to control other zones from a keypad and that is when I will create a different code device with that specific IR code.

Crystal clear eh?





This is normal, but yes the long download does suck.



That is the only way that i know. The main parts of the lcd display are static


I find the URC programming editor to be fairly powerful. At times the 5 character limit makes things tough. I would like to someday experiment with RTI K3 touch screens controlling the CT600. Gary @ August Systems only uses Crestron touchscreens to control the CT systems he sells. He claims to never have sold a CK1.2 KP.


Agreed they are a great value and very powerful for the money, once you get good at the MX editor

Never was a big fan of the CK 1.2's, used them once. Looked okay, worked fine. The five letter display was a bummer. Gonna try out the RTI touchpad here when I have some free time. I have all the product sitting in stock, just waiting to be unboxed and put togther.

Love the B & K product over all though.

Scrap the CK1.2 and use the Sonance K2 (the software was written by RTI). These are only one way devices, but you can use page flips to synchronize multiple keypads.

I am like Gary... I have never sold or installed a single CK1.2 keypad and I don't have any plans to offer them.

I did, however, get trapped into programming a job where most of the control is through K4's. but they sold CK1.1 keypads to use in bedrooms and smaller zones... URC programming is a real pain.

I'm still working out how the B and K stuff will fit in our mix. I can see using the CK1.1 keypads for basic zones. Each keypad would use code 128 and be an exact clone to speed up the process.

Then I'd drop in a couple K4s, or even just K2s to control multiple rooms, and for better source control. Amazing how many people are quite content to manually operate a house music system, and just have VCs everywhere. We don't sell that type of system anymore, so as long as I can show good value, and offer a noticeble improvement in convenience, its a win win.