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Inexpensive Audio Analyzers
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Post 1 made on Friday June 9, 2006 at 15:06
MnBasser
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I was just wondering if there are any decent Audio Analyzers out there that give you the basics without having to spend $2,500 and up?

I was kind of looking for a

Spectrum analyzer
delay time
SPL
tone generator
impedance and polarity


Does Sencore own this market or are there other alternatives?

Thanks!
JD
Post 2 made on Friday June 9, 2006 at 15:49
Impaqt
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Your post promted me to look... We have the Sencore... This looks injteresting..
[Link: acousticalsurfaces.com]

Looks like a nice meter for only $300

There are some pretty good reviews out there as well if ya do a google search.
Post 3 made on Friday June 9, 2006 at 17:09
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We use the PAA2, it works fine for us, but we may get the PAA3 which has RT60
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I went to Hell, and loved it. So I stayed.
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Post 4 made on Friday June 9, 2006 at 18:42
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Until bose comes out with something, I'm sure this is the best money can buy.
[Link: monstercable.com]
There were threads on this topic last November & march.
Some liked the Avia pro, but now it appears to be out of stock everwhere.
I would love to own a case full of Sencore, but thats just not in the budget.
Audio Control makes some stuff, but I havent had a chance to give it a close look.
It's such a fine line between stupid, and clever.
Post 5 made on Friday June 9, 2006 at 21:19
ejfiii
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no etf fans out there?

http://www.acoustisoft.com/
Post 6 made on Friday June 9, 2006 at 22:04
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I grew up on this one. Awesome piece:

[Link: industrialaudiocontrol.com]

Awesome Price:
[Link: cgi.ebay.com]

I can see this one set up in a client's living room. LMAO !!!!
[Link: cgi.ebay.com]
Post 7 made on Friday June 9, 2006 at 23:13
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Another vote for ETF. Also TrueRTA.
Post 8 made on Friday June 9, 2006 at 23:33
2nd rick
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Check the Gold Line catalog...

Tony Grimani recommended the DSP-CIW model, which is a DSP-30 without a display, intended to be used with your laptop.

Also check the 1/12th octave option and RT60 option.
Rick Murphy
Troy, MI
OP | Post 9 made on Saturday June 10, 2006 at 00:22
MnBasser
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On June 9, 2006 at 18:42, dpva59 said...
Until bose comes out with something, I'm sure
this is the best money can buy.

I think I'll wait until Bose comes out with something. What ever they do is the best on the planet. Consumer Reports agrees!

The ETF looks cool and seems very affordable.

Has anyone be to the Sencore training? There damn expensive, but it seems like their service and training are top notch. It's hard to commit that much to calibration equipment.

Thanks for everyone's replys
Post 10 made on Saturday June 10, 2006 at 07:58
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I have been using TrueRTA (and Rane Pe17 parametric equalizer) with great success in my installs. It's decent and gets the calibration job done much faster. I think it's $100 for the full version and all you need in terms of hardware is a laptop, an inexpensive USB sound card and a decent mike and a mic preamp.

For the mic and mic preamp i use the combo that comes with ETF (I own ETF as well). I purchased the MP-1r-KIT from a german company, paid around US$200. Check this link for mic and mic preamp.
[Link: ibf-acoustic.com]

Also check TrueRTA's help for recommended mic and pre amp setups.

For comprehensive acoustics analysis jobs ETF is far superior.
Post 11 made on Saturday June 10, 2006 at 10:29
ejfiii
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Interesting, could you talk a little more about the differences between ETF and TrueRTA? Thanks.
Post 12 made on Monday June 12, 2006 at 02:58
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On June 10, 2006 at 10:29, ejfiii said...
Interesting, could you talk a little more about
the differences between ETF and TrueRTA? Thanks.

I've used both.

The concepts behind ETF are more advanced, and the software has a fairly steep learning curve. ETF generates an impulse response, and gives the frequency response based on the impulse. The benefit is that taking a freq response curve takes about 5 seconds once things are set up. You put things in place, and can take many curves with the speaker in lots of locations, and note the differences quickly. Although the web site says there is a version that allows you to make measurements without attaching to the system under test, don't believe it. The author no longer supports this, yet continues to tout it as a feature. I've had extensive discussion with the author on this topic, and he's intractible about supporting this "old" feature, even though he advertises it.

TrueRTA offers good results as well. The software will generate a swept signal, and use the mic to measure the results. The interface and use is extremely ease, and very clear. This package is not as powerful as ETF, but can offer good results.

If you will use this infrequently, you're likely better off with TrueRTA. It's easy to learn, and you can get results quite quickly.

ETF has a steep learning curve. No documentation is available. You have to use some recorded tutorials. I had no luck being able to fast forward, or rewind, so I could skip what I understood, and listen again, to what was confusing. This added to the learning curve. Don't intend you use the version that allows you to measure a system response using a CD placed in the system. The author no longer supports this, although this is featured on the web site. If you are going to perform measurements often, the time that can be saved heavily overshadows the hard to comprehend user interface, and the steep learning curve.
Post 13 made on Monday June 12, 2006 at 08:57
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Post 14 made on Monday June 12, 2006 at 19:41
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Thanks BCF. Much appreciated.
Post 15 made on Monday June 12, 2006 at 19:50
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I think Bob Hodas uses this:

[Link: meyersound.com]
Keith_G
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