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Imp match VC hooked up backwards...
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Post 16 made on Sunday April 30, 2006 at 03:39
pilgram
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A volume control wired backwards will 'look' and SMELL like a dead short!

Most amps can't handle this!
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Post 17 made on Sunday April 30, 2006 at 14:13
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On April 27, 2006 at 08:46, ceied said...
i have a great idea... dont use v/c's sell them
a cheap multi room multi zone instead

ed

ed... I think that makes a lot of sense... I just ran across a little JAMO system when you add it all up it's about the same $$$ as a regular VC type... Hmmm... Gotta rethink things a little... VC's seem so old-school ya know?!
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Post 18 made on Sunday April 30, 2006 at 14:33
Tom Ciaramitaro
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A typical VC would have the amp input on the left and the speaker on the right. Moving the slider up and down taps a different portion of the transformer. The primary (amp side) has a voltage to turns ratio based on how high the amp is turned up. The secondary (speaker side) just grabs a certain number of turns and based on the same voltage to turns ratio, has a fractional portion of the maximum volume fed out to the speaker.

This supports your "short" with the volume control at minimum. Short for the speaker, not for the amp. Turn it up one notch and it's not necessarily "high impedance" as you say, in the sense that the impedance slowly drops as you turn it up. It's only taking a fraction of the available level and passing it along.

Now my question to you was on impedance matching VCs which I have never used or looked into. I went to a client's house that had them and due to quality or some other issue, the amp was shutting down with four of these in circuit. I don't know who wired them or their quality and it's been so long I don't even remember what I did to fix them - maybe changed the taps?

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Post 19 made on Sunday April 30, 2006 at 14:36
Larry Fine
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On April 30, 2006 at 03:20, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
Larry,
they step UP the impedance shown to the amp by
any particular speaker. This allows several of
them to be put in parallel. In so doing they
step DOWN the volume. The only way a volume control
could step up the voltage to a speaker would be
for it to put out more power than goes into it
because the speaker is the same impedance either
way, and more volume would equate to more power.
Another way to look at it is that the volume
control steps down the power to each speaker so
that all speakers share the available power.

My bad. I meant: with an auto-transformer-type volume control wired backwards, this is what would happen.
Post 20 made on Monday May 1, 2006 at 11:25
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I always use a AA battery to pop the speakers before hooking up to the V/C, that way I'm sure.
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