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Wiring technology help please
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Post 1 made on Saturday November 23, 2002 at 10:05
Jack Pollack
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Is using the S-Video in/out superior to using the composite video? Is the improvement worth the time and cost of rewiring a system that is already wired, or is it just marginal?
Post 2 made on Saturday November 23, 2002 at 10:12
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yes, in my experience S video is far superior to composite and worth the time. there is another thread discussing the pro and con of composite, s, and component.


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OP | Post 3 made on Saturday November 23, 2002 at 10:37
Jack Pollack
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I did a search and can not find the thread that you are talking about. Can you give me a link or the title?

Thanks
Post 4 made on Saturday November 23, 2002 at 11:30
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Here you go:

[Link: remotecentral.com]
Best Regards,
Eric
OP | Post 5 made on Saturday November 23, 2002 at 11:43
Jack Pollack
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Thanks :-)
Post 6 made on Monday November 25, 2002 at 01:14
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Composite to S-video. I think there's a lot of factors that have to go into this question before you can simplify it to just "I switching from Composite to S-video, worth it?" I hate to complicate things, but I like to think things through before offering advice. How much will it cost to make the switch? What equipment is involved in the switch? What's the source, the destination, and any switching gear along the way. Is this just a matter of replacing a couple cables behind an entertainment center, or re-wiring a multi-room installation? Generally, people say S-video compared to composite is like night and day. I think it's like dusk, or a little bit sharper color on the sunset at dusk. Composite to component is more like night and day. If it's going to cost a fortune, then no, it's not worth it...consider getting better equipment that uses component. S-vid isn't high-def capable, so that also weighs in. Is it worth it to upgrade an old technology to a little bit newer technology? S-video won't give you any better resolution, it won't make the picture less jittery....it won't do a lot of things people think it will. Weigh all the factors, then decide.
Post 7 made on Monday November 25, 2002 at 19:11
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It really depends upon the quality of the comb filter in your receiving device.....

But S-Vid does get rid of that annoying moire pattern!
Post 8 made on Monday November 25, 2002 at 20:49
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Cmack,
Transcoding and conversion are not the same thing. We should use the correct terms so we can be clear about what it is we are discussing. Lots (ok, some)of units are transcoding: Kenwood Sovreign, Integra, Denon. etc. but I don't think any are doing real conversion, that would make our lives very simple but would be prohibitively expensive.

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Post 9 made on Wednesday November 27, 2002 at 20:24
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How dare you!
You are horning in on my business. In another thread, I gave bob all the ..... and ,,,,, that he should need for a while, but I told him he would have to pay for the ??? and !!!
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Post 10 made on Wednesday November 27, 2002 at 20:33
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Well, these days, I think Transcode and Conversion mean the same thing.

I think more appropriate would be scaling and doubling. Totally different concepts.
Post 11 made on Monday December 2, 2002 at 13:38
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Jack,

My system comprises

Arcam DV88 via S-VHS
Grundig UK Satellite Box via S-VHS (not sky plus)
Panasonic Video via Composite
Denon Amp to switch all the video and audio
Toshiba TV

Plus some other stuff.

The TV is 5 meters from the rack of kit, the cables are then ran in conduit under the floor to the TV. I run an S-VHS and composite cable. The S-VHS and composite cables are about 7.5m long.

In my set-up there is a huge difference in the quality of S-VHS versus composite in the favour of S-VHS. I can watch the Sky box via either composite or S-VHS and the difference is well worth the money. I think the three s-VHS leads cost around £250 and it was worth it.

I couldn't/wouldn't go to component due to the volume of cables and chasing out a concrete floor. I also have to run 3 speaker cables(Front-L, Center, Front-R) and Subwoofer input through the floor.

Also my local AV-Supplier advised against component due to the cable length. He informed S-VHS would give a better result than component over this length unless I was willing to put in very fat cables. He reckons S-VHS is a more robust method over longer distances.

I am sure some folk here will hang me for the above comment but I don't care.

I found it to be worth it, however that does not mean to say every system will notice the difference. Even my wife could see the difference without me pointing t out.

The words 'Has that new cable really made that much difference to the picture' still ring in ears.

Is it worth re-wiring, well that depends on the effort involved. Mine required me to chase out a concrete floor, lay conduit into the floor. Order custom length cables, wait for delivery, pay £250, fit cables, relay floor on top. Yes it was worth it, but I like that DIY thing.

If everything is in one pile and you just have to play with the sphagetti behind it then yes.

Dave
Post 12 made on Monday December 2, 2002 at 20:06
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Well, I think the advantage of Component over S is lost in the length. You may very well have a BETTER picture via S than you would with Component!


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