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Topic: | I need a new remote This thread has 22 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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Post 1 made on Friday February 17, 2006 at 18:30 |
edmarks Founding Member |
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I've had a Pronto TSU 2000 for a few years and want to get a new remote. I've been thinking of the MX-3000 for the RF factor. Is it a good product
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Post 2 made on Friday February 17, 2006 at 19:33 |
Ahl Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | October 2001 1,241 |
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mx3000 rules. Invest in one now.
sup guys!
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Post 3 made on Friday February 17, 2006 at 20:04 |
djnorm Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2002 1,693 |
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Also think about the RTI T3 (if you have access to one...)
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Post 4 made on Friday February 17, 2006 at 20:08 |
Glackowitz RC Moderator |
Joined: Posts: | May 2002 3,793 |
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We used to sell the URC line, WE had bad experience with the RF. Others have had no issues at all with the RF. We now use RTI remotes and have had no issues If you are looking for URC MX3000 talk with Damon at www.proremotes.comHe can even program it for you www.universalremotes.comwww.rticorp.com
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Post 5 made on Friday February 17, 2006 at 21:19 |
Shoe Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2001 1,385 |
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Hey Glackowitz, why are you advocating internet sales over the local CI guys? Shall we refer your customers to the internet?
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Post 6 made on Friday February 17, 2006 at 22:24 |
Ernie Bornn-Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,104 |
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Hey, Shoe, maybe that guy is local to Glack. Even if not, recall the numerous threads about how we installers mostly have found that we have to be in the client's home pushing the buttons in order to make the best control file. Issues that come to mind are needed delays, figuring out which sequences in a macro will give the fastest rock-solid result, and doing it all at once rather than going back and forth with a file that needs to be tried out by the client, then tweaked...then repeated all over again.
Plus, it would be real real simple to mention RF, then mention that URC works great with RF for some, but for others RF has been their reason to quit selling RF and changing to RTI.
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Post 7 made on Saturday February 18, 2006 at 00:27 |
Glackowitz RC Moderator |
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On February 17, 2006 at 21:19, Shoe said...
Hey Glackowitz, why are you advocating internet sales over the local CI guys? Shall we refer your customers to the internet? Do you like Remote central as a web site?? You do, cool then look at who I refered him too!! Damon of Pro remotes...A very big contributer of this site as well as an advertiser on this site Smell the Coffee!!!
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Post 8 made on Saturday February 18, 2006 at 03:17 |
Shoe Founding Member |
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I have seen this recommendation from Glackowitz regularly and while I acknowlege the contribution to the site by the internet advertisers on this site, I think it simply points people towards the "net" for their purchases of all av equipment not to mention labor dollars for programming. It is also, of course, self serving, as is my post supportive of my interests. If it were RTI being sold, I doubt there would be such an enthusiastic response. It is no skin off my back but just a slight irritation. I have gotten far more of an education by sitting through trainings by Eric J and Hank E. than I will ever get on this or any other site. I am simply looking out for my own business interests. And please don't even think of trying to make it look as if I am going to destroy Remote Central by opposing the internet business model because that is BS. Eventually Glackowitz, someone will call you to program their RTI remote for their system bought from some AVS advertiser or AVS itself and you may be enjoying your coffee a bit less.
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on February 18, 2006 10:42.
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Post 9 made on Saturday February 18, 2006 at 05:07 |
stereoguy823 Advanced Member |
Joined: Posts: | February 2005 885 |
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I tend to agree with Shoe on this one.
I do see the point of pointing someone in the direction of an important contributor to this site, but whatever happened to finding your local custom installer?
It IS looking after your own interests, yes, and I see that sooner or later our business models will not work on sales alone. Labour/installation/programming will be all that's left if things carry on as they are with the support (is that what it's called) from the major manufacturers.
Two sides here, I don't wanna get caught in the middle.
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Post 10 made on Saturday February 18, 2006 at 08:49 |
Shoe Founding Member |
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I realize I left one thing out. The MX 3000 is a way better remote than the TSU2000 and though I've only done a few, They are working perfectly and my customers think they are great. I have not done any RTI, but they have someadvances control and signaling options (power sensing and one way RS 232) the URC remotes don't have.
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Post 11 made on Saturday February 18, 2006 at 08:52 |
n_stallr Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | June 2005 123 |
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Isn't this the Custom Installer's Lounge? In this forum, local CI's should be favored. This industry is our existance and for most of us, it's our passion. It is also our years of experience and "hard knocks" education that assists most of the posters in this forum looking for advice or a method of "saving a few bucks" by doing the work themselves, but wanting professional, reliable results. In the respective forums (Pronto, UEI, RTI, ect) the channels of aquisation are pretty well known and suggestions could be made without "toe stepping" Personal experience: I tired of URC's method of testing, hunting, testing, moving, testing, tweaking, testing, adjusting, testing, throwing, testing, come back in two days, testing, adjusting, testing, order new MRF, install, testing, moving, testing, smashing all compoenents with a 10# sledge out of complete and utter frustration, replace, test..... method of RF control. I've found RTI's method of program, install, test and leave with happy, satisfied customers to be a much better alternative. For IR only, URC's stuff is okay. Once used to RTI's software, I prefer it for all remote systems. And yes.... it is an income channel for me. I know it seems irrelevant, but I have a family life, and the family needs a roof and food.
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on February 18, 2006 09:00.
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Post 12 made on Saturday February 18, 2006 at 11:37 |
Glackowitz RC Moderator |
Joined: Posts: | May 2002 3,793 |
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So your saying I should refer them to a local CI, in most cases that would be Best buy and circuit city,and other chain stores, home depot, sears and wal-mart
RTI isnt whored out like URC either..cant be bought it online through dealers or flea-bay, software is dealer only and is password protected
If someone called my work with a stack of internet purchased product we wont install it. we wont refer them to another dealer either.
If one of our existing clients buys online we have a form that we hand them stateing we need to bring it to our shop and test it for compatibility with our gear...even if its the same product we spec'd. this way we still get money from it and they see it as now costing more for buying online. thus will always buy from us
If you are worried about losing sales on a product that can be bought on the net or losing sales to internet dealers, maybe you should look at another line of remotes
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Post 13 made on Saturday February 18, 2006 at 11:58 |
ceied Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | February 2002 5,753 |
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my only advice is if you need a new remote...go out and purchase one...you dont need my advice to do that.
ed
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Post 14 made on Saturday February 18, 2006 at 13:57 |
tschulte Advanced Member |
Joined: Posts: | November 2005 808 |
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On February 18, 2006 at 11:37, Glackowitz said...
So your saying I should refer them to a local CI, in most cases that would be Best buy and circuit city,and other chain stores, home depot, sears and wal-mart I have never seen a Best Buy kid program a remote? How could you even think about putting them in the same classification as the rest of us? Just because URC sells some remotes to the chain stores does not make them a sell out. By the way if you are referring to Magnolia, all I can say is time will tell the story on that one.
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Post 15 made on Saturday February 18, 2006 at 14:08 |
hitagain Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2005 146 |
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Wont program or install something the customer buys himself. I wish we had that option. Being more of electrical than VDV (A/V) contractor. Most of our larger customers now buy there own equipment. And if you dont think that any product line out there wont sell straight to the large end user you are wrong. (end user I.E. Mastercard, Boeing, Sprint, Bank of America, Target, Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot..etc.) We do work for all of the above. Last job we did for Beoing they supplied 70 LCD's for us to hang. Not going to say no to that. If anyone of our customers called us to ask us to program a remote the got off the internet I'll be happy to send out one of our techs at the standard Hourly rate.
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