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Post 1 made on Wednesday February 1, 2006 at 20:27
Atlas Cinema
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I am brand new to RC, and find this forum fascinating, and very helpful. Anyway, I have worked extensively with Bang & Olufsen products over the last 5 years, and I know they can be a little intimidating if you are unfamiliar with all of their many ins and outs, so I would like to make myself available to the group for any questions you might have. The sales people in the B & O stores usually know nothing about the nuts and bolts of installing the product and getting it to work with non B & O items, and customer service at the corporate level can be uneven. So hit me back with your questions or problems, and I will do my best to help you out.
Post 2 made on Wednesday February 1, 2006 at 20:49
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Welcome, thanks for the offer to contribute.
Post 3 made on Thursday February 2, 2006 at 02:56
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On February 1, 2006 at 20:27, Atlas Cinema said...
I am brand new to RC, and find this forum fascinating,
and very helpful. Anyway, I have worked extensively
with Bang & Olufsen products over the last 5 years,
and I know they can be a little intimidating if
you are unfamiliar with all of their many ins
and outs, so I would like to make myself available
to the group for any questions you might have.
The sales people in the B & O stores usually
know nothing about the nuts and bolts of installing
the product and getting it to work with non B
& O items, and customer service at the corporate
level can be uneven. So hit me back with your
questions or problems, and I will do my best to
help you out.

It's actually pretty amazing stuff... Bullet-Proof, all active speakers, once you've worked with it for a while easy to wire-up... But the coolest product was that little box that did such a great job with macros etc. of other brands of gear... And the AVANT TV!
Too bad it's so dang costly!!! I've got some good deals on used B&O on Ebay... I guess the high price adds to the snob appeal though...
"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
Frank Lloyd Wright
OP | Post 4 made on Thursday February 2, 2006 at 06:03
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Yeah, the Avant is a work of art as far as I am concerned. An amazing picture from just about any source, plus the ability to hook a projector to it, and toggle between the two
Post 5 made on Thursday February 2, 2006 at 12:49
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Welcome Atlas.

What great timing. I am looking at a job at the moment where the client would like to use the 9000 on-wall CD changer as a source, and was wondering if it has a fixed line level output, and if there was a way to control it via any multi-room audio systems; that is, IR.

I know about the 455khz IR control, but is there any way for me to integrate it with other systems.

Also, the little active speakers; how can they be hooked up? Line level again with variable line level or speaker level?

Your help here would be very helpful.

TIA.
Sticking to what I'm good at.
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday February 2, 2006 at 13:11
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On February 2, 2006 at 12:49, stereoguy823 said...
What great timing. I am looking at a job at the
moment where the client would like to use the
9000 on-wall CD changer as a source, and was wondering
if it has a fixed line level output, and if there
was a way to control it via any multi-room audio
systems; that is, IR.
I know about the 455khz IR control, but is there
any way for me to integrate it with other systems.|
Also, the little active speakers; how can they
be hooked up? Line level again with variable line
level or speaker level?


Yes, you can do line level out of a 9000, it requires an adaptor plug from B & O which plugs into the Aux plug on the unit. what you want is the "DIN to 4 RCA plug" this plug allows both signal out to a dist. audio system, and aux-in for TV sound or an Ipod. I have used an Universal Remote MX-850 with pretty good results with a 9000. You have to learn all the commands, because I dont think they are in the URC data base. If you are using a URC RF base station, turn up the output on the flasher for best results. The IR receiver on the unit is just below disc #6. As far as integrating it with a dist audio system with remote keypads, etc. I am not sure if it would work. Not sure what you are refering to when you talk about the little active speakers. are you refering to B & O speakers, and if so what model? hit me back with more info.
Post 7 made on Friday February 3, 2006 at 04:17
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Atlas,

Thanks for the reply.The speakers are B+O, I cannot remember the model no. but they are a cubeish shape with at least 2 or may be 3 drive units. One on each horizontal face. Does that sound right? Wall mount models. possibly beolab4 or 3. Sorry to be so vague but I only got a glimpse of the catalogue the dealer showed to the client.

That is good news with the MX-850/MRF, at least there is a way to control it remotely.
Sticking to what I'm good at.
Post 8 made on Friday February 3, 2006 at 06:22
stereoguy823
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I decided to a little homework on this stuff and searched the archive for ccf's and such like.

It appears that you cannot learn the b+o code. However Atlas, you say you have. Was it fairly straightforward? I have downloaded some ccf's form the files area and will try them when I get the oppotunity.
I have a Marantz 5400 purely for programming/test, but now prefer the URC handsets for most projects.
What experience do you have of these? I take it you have not yet tried to send the b+o code over a multi-room systems IR network?
I think I may well explain to this guy that I can use it as an uncontrolled source as far as the M/R system is concerned, but may be able to offer control via an MX-850 and MRF-300. Of course, this could control his M/R system anyway.

Would this sound viable?

TIA.
Sticking to what I'm good at.
OP | Post 9 made on Friday February 3, 2006 at 12:05
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Programming the codes manually was just like any other learning remote situation. point em at each other and learn the codes. No major drama
Post 10 made on Friday February 3, 2006 at 14:14
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Thank you Atlas.

I'm on to it. Your input here is valuable and I'm sure your future input on this forum will be appreciated.
Sticking to what I'm good at.
Post 11 made on Friday February 3, 2006 at 18:07
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I have a customer who has an older 9000 mounted in there bedroom, they have a gloria (niles ZR4630) for sound arround the house. I ran cat5e to the 9000 and used an elan irawp (ir+ audio extender plates) for a remote source on the gloria. used a din to 4rca adaptor. plus a nul plug to trick the 9000 into thinking that there are speakers attached so it operates normaly. the audio side of things work fine i can turn on the 9000 and select that source on the solo keypads.

But unlike your post above learning into the mx remotes have not been sucksesfull. when it learns into the mx850 it only works from 3' or closer. those codes learned into the gloria dont work. So i got an old 455khz down stepper xantec piece that the tec at B&O sent to (roland) and down stepped the codes to 40khz. these codes wouldnt work ether. So i learned into the mx3000 (from 6ft away.) the codes at 455 and toggled the khz down in that editor and set them to repeat 9 times. still not working into the gloria. I know the ir is working because i can control the cablebox in that room with the flasher 9' away from it.

this install was 2 yrs ago so the customer is fine with the way things are working but it would be nice to say i finaly figured it out.

Thanks
Dave
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OP | Post 12 made on Friday February 3, 2006 at 21:26
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Hey Flandon,


Roland at B & O is the jedi master.....great guy and great source of info. With the set up I am working with currently. I have the IR Flasher attached directly to the 9000, just below disc 6 and its plugged into a URC MRF 300, and the output on the flasher is adjusted to the highest setting. The set up isnt perfect in its response, especially running the volume up and down, buts it workable. I think I may have other RF interferance issues with the whole set up which may be causing problems. Using the MX-850 in IR mode, 3-6 feet was about all I could get it to work too, so I think for best results you have to use a MRF base station, so it get the strongest signal to the unit.
OP | Post 13 made on Friday February 3, 2006 at 21:35
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On February 3, 2006 at 04:17, stereoguy823 said...

possibly beolab4 or 3.
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It sounds like beolab 3's from your description.

is the 9000 and the speakers the centerpiece of the system or are they being used as a CD transport and speakers hooked to a standard style surround receiver of some sort? this will determine how they are hooked up, and what sort of cabling to use.
Post 14 made on Wednesday February 15, 2006 at 12:47
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Sorry to take so long to reply, I missed the tread on the 1st page after what must have been a busy period on the forum.

The 9000 and speakers are I suppose the centrepiece, connected as a source component to a D/A system available elsewhere in the house. I think I'm gonna need to program an MX-350/850 with codes for the D/A system and the B+O for use in other rooms.
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OP | Post 15 made on Wednesday February 15, 2006 at 21:25
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To hook it up you will be using B & O powerlink speaker cable. it comes in fixed lengths up to 60 ft, and has a 8 pin DIN connector at each end. It can be spliced, but I wouldnt unless you feel you absolutely have to. Each cable is carrying both right and left channel audio, and on the back of each speaker is a switch must you set for left or right. there are two types of cable that B & O makes, type 2 and type 3. I think they have discontinued type 1. the speakers will come with two type 3 powerlink cables which i think will be about 8 feet long. type 2 cables have a thicker casing, and I would recommend them if you are running the cables through the walls, because they will stand up better to being pulled. You also have to remember that these are active speakers and you will be needing to run AC power to each one. If the speakers are being wall mounted, plan your installation carefully, as the wall brackets dont cover much surface area on the wall, and you cant punch a very big hole for the speaker cable and the power cable to come through. any other questions please let me know....
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