Hi,
I have a high profile nba client & in his bedroom system he has a lg dlp tv with a yamaha receiver, dvd, comcast, sat, inexpensive monster surge, etc.. On the lg tv he likes to use the sleep mode, the tv has toggle for switching the amount of sleep time that you want. We sold him an universal mx-850 & mrf-300. Unlike the mx-3000 there are no timed macro's & he likes the hard buttons. One of my reps sold me a xantech peice that didn't work. I'm looking for an inexpensive solution, cuz he has spent so much $ on other parts of the house this is not as big as a priority. I know I need some sort of trigger, but I've been so busy I haven't had time to research which co I rep sells something like this , any suggestions?
Thanx,
Matt

This is a high profile NBA client and you didn't sell him a real control system?

This is one of the main reasons to sell real control, so when the client ask... "can I do X?", you can say yes.

Rather than kludge something together that will more than likely turn into a series of service calls and no referrals, you should just say no.

I'm not recommending this, even though it's still working. Different situation, with different equipment, but it did work...

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Norm

If you're going to kludge something, at least use fewer parts.

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I'm not researching the details, but just passing on the basic ideas here. You need two things: something to turn everything off when the TV goes off, and something to turn things back on, probably without having to turn the TV back on. Nobody wants the TV to have to be on to play a CD or the radio.

The second half is easy -- run the AC power for the A/V receiver plus anything else you want to switch off, through a Niles AC-3, a 120 VAC switch turned on by 5 to 30 volts and turned off by no volts. Use a 12 volt power supply to turn on the AC-3 and use a Xantech CC12 IR-controlled relay to turn the AC-3 on whenever you like by sending an IR command through your IR system (oh, yeah, gotta have one of them for this).

Now we can turn the system on any time. How do we get the TV to turn it off?

Have a second way to turn the AC-3 on and off, that's how.

Run the power cord of the TV through the kind of Niles current sensor that senses the amount of current used by the 120V power running through it. This will give you an output when the TV is on and a different output when the TV is off.

Have the "TV ON" output also trigger the Niles AC-3. Now the AC-3 will be on whenever you tell it to be on via the CC12, and whenever the TV is on.

Now, some time after you turn on the system and before you hit the SLEEP button, send a signal to the CC12 so it does not keep the AC-3 on. This will leave the TV current sensor keeping the AC-3 on, and when the TV switches itself off, whatever is plugged into the AC-3 will also go off.



By the way, what idiot way back in time decided that "kludge" does not rhyme with judge, fudge, nudge, grudge and even pudge? That word should be spelled Kluge or Klooge, and we should start spelling it that way right now and never give up.

This system is not quite the Kluge that was described in the other thread, but it sure ain't elegant!

You might not need new gear to acomplished this. Yamaha receivers use to have timers built in. I dont know the new ones. Also check if the display has a feature that will turn off by itsel after few minutes without any signal at the input. In this case you have a DLP so I doubt it will have this feature, but check the manual; you might be lucky and solve the problem. Just program the remote with the different timers in the Yamaha receiver(30,45,60,90,120) and them set the display to turn off by itself if does not have signal at the input after lets say 5 minutes. It is no really a control solution but it works.

"I have a blah blah blah..." Who cares who the client is.. is the money green? Did they pay you to perform your job?

Take care of all your clients...

Sorry had to get that rant out.

If they want to use the sleep timers then you have to mate up the timers if you didn't get the right sort of control system.

Sleep button 3 times on the TV equals sleep in 40 mins. Sleep on the receiver 6 times equals 40 mins. Macro needed to include both sets of command. Then you have to have voltage monitors to deal with hard powering everything else.

Hi,
Thanks for the feedback, I wrote this after a very long install day & one to many beers. I deserved the "blah, blah, blah," comment. Anyways "yada, yada, yada I fixed the problem."
Thanks,
Matt

How did you fix it? I'm interested because it is a weird one and can depend on making A/V receiver remote system, TV remote system, and general control remote system all play nicely together.

And did you pause before asking this question to consider whether you should perhaps have a member name other than "remote genius" when you ask questions like this?

Sorry if the tone before was mean.... I was just pointing out the fact that a paying customer is a paying customer and I have less headaches if I treat everyone the way I would want to be treated.

Yeah, I once worked for a guy who had us working on a house...he proudly announced that the house "used to belong to Barbara Eden." I mean, sheesh! He's not even dropping the name of the person who owns it NOW!

Well, then, you'll have to adjust rouge, stooge, luge, and so on...wrong language for implementing standardization at this late date.

You could spell it klouge, klooge, or kluge, following your examples and mine, but can you think of any other word spelled -udge that does not rhyme with fudge?

I always thought that it did sound like Fudge....

Oh well at least I can say "Timbre" correctly....

Isn't that what lumberjacks say?