here's the skinny,

i have a devise that will only pass digital or analog not both at same time. i need analog for whole house sound and digital for the theater room.....

what i am looking for is 1 digital (coax or toslink) prefer coax input 1 analog output and 1 digital output

please save the flame's until a usefull answer comes in, then it is open blow torches.....

thanks

ed

happy new year

I've run PCM audio to multiple outputs using a non-amplifying matrix switch so I'd imagine a splitter would probably work (SPDIF out to y-rca cable then one branch to the digital input and the other to the converter) - have you tried it (or anyone else?)

If you can use either Coax or Toslink I'm assuming the device has both... WHy not useone to go to the D/A and the other to go to the Surround receiver?

I also find it had to belive there is a device out there that disables the Analog when the digitl is hooked up... What is this thing?

xperinet is the peice and it only does only coax output..... for digital i thought it had toslink....

i will try the anolog and the digital coax....but xperinet said analog is disabled when digital is selected..

i'll keep you guys posted for future reference

ed

Ed, can you select that digital input on the surround processor, and route it to an analog tape monitor or multi-zone output??

A multi-zone out would be preferable from the standpoint that it can be on without the theater being on, but the level would need to be pre-set in a macro or something. The tape monitor would provide the fixed out, but the processor would need to be powered up and an unused input selected for the main outs when the theater is not being used... Either way it is convoluted, but possible.

I know that you are a control guy, so this could be an last resort option if the device you seek cannot be found.

2nd rick...yeah thats ok for a low end system..... i know you are talking about last resort.

but just the whole house sound is 40 k...theater another 30 k so that is not an option....

i know there are plenty of digtal to analog adapters...the problem becomes digital feed thru i know sombody makes that beast......most likely ada.....

someday us chicago guys will have to meet at hooters for lunch...

ed

tell experinet to do a firmware upgrade and give you both.

already did, but it wil be after our install so i need a quick temp fix


ed

This is the CLASSIC requirement for any modern device with audio outputs, because second zone is always totally analog.

Every receiver and surround processor I have ever looked at has a completely separate path for analog and digital audio. The tape output trick would not work because the digital signal comes in as digital and comes out of the processor as 5.1 channels. It never exists as a two-channel signal at all, so there is no two-channel signal to route to the tape output.

You can split a coaxial signal and feed it to two devices. A y-cable might work, depending on what you are feeding the signal to, or you might have to go through a video distribution amplifier (even the $50 Radio Shack 1 in 6 out if they still have those). It would probably be more expensive to convert the signal to optical, then deal with it, but Calrad has a passive optical splitter that works beautifully. One of those outputs would go to the A/V receiver or processor and the other to a D-A converter to get your analog signal. The D-A will also have to mix it down to two-channel.

Kinda makes tippy-tie's suggestion look better, doesn't it? The boiz at experinot need to be informed that because turning on the digital turns off the analog, you can only use their product in low-end systems. This is the sort of output limitation found in non-ES Sony, i.e. low-end non-anythingphile products. Point out that the $50 Radio Shack DVD Player puts out digital and analog audio at the same time.

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You could place this on the SPDIF coaxial out, and route #1 into the processor, #2 into the DAC that feeds the distributed audio system, and leave #3, and #4 unused.

EDIT:
Ernie brings up another great point.
Unless you output PCM stereo from the Xperinet and use the theater in analog Dolby ProLogic II steering... not the best solution either.

...and at that point, you are almodst better off just hooking up both systems with the analog outputs split with an AV-61 distribution amp.

Well you have two options for a slightly compromised solution until Xperinet can figure out a firmware upgrade.

yeah thats what i thought...leave it to ernie to spoil my new years


goodnight and happy new year to all

ed

Ed, Can't you add one of the Xperionet D5 audio boxes and get 5 sources for your DA system? I know it adds a couple G's, but then you have 5 audio streams instead of 1.

coud but this guy lives by himself so no way to justify that expense....

i have to be carefull....the budget went from 20k-30k for everything to almost 70k for everything....

its all about trust and he is at his limit of what he is willing to spend....

rlustig...talked to barbara today...she said you referenced me......

everyone else......ok we have a solution for this problem......they are doing a firmware upgrade soon to ix this problem, if hardware cannot physically do both they wil upgrade board at no cost to fix.......

thanks everyone for good input and insite

ed