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PPL that tune HD tvs?
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Post 1 made on Thursday December 15, 2005 at 22:00
sonyman
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I heard that there was some company. that tunes your HD TV better then factory calibration. Not sure if i read about it here, but from what i read they use some kind of suction cup or something on your tv screen to calibrate it, i wasn't that interested about it when my tv was new with a price tag of $400 , but i have noticed recently that the image is not as sharp as it used to be anymore. does anyone know what this process is called and who could i call . I live in toronto Canada.

P.S. just wanted to give my thanks now. this message board ROCKS! it has always helped me out in the past. :)
Post 2 made on Thursday December 15, 2005 at 22:10
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It's called calibration, and it's not just for HD, any TV set can be calibrated, look at: http://www.imagingscience.com/ if your TV was only $400 when new you might end up paying a few hundred to have it properly calibrated. Look up some of your local custom installers/integrators and see if they have anyone that does calibrations.
OP | Post 3 made on Saturday December 17, 2005 at 00:24
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Thanks for your help. I forgot to mention that my Tv is a 65" rear projection HD . and it cost me when new, close to $10,000, lol not $400 5 years ago, at the time i didn't want to spend more money after the cost of the tv and the extend warranty. :) what im looking for is info on this process that puts some kind of scanner or something on the screen that figures out, were i guess the 3 tubes hit the glass or something like that.

Wish i would of kept the link. :(

NM i was looking at your link and i think that might help thanks! ill give it a try :)
Post 4 made on Saturday December 17, 2005 at 00:36
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No, I wont install your plasma with an orange extension cord hanging down the wall.

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Post 5 made on Saturday December 17, 2005 at 06:34
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Spyder tv www.datacolor.com I think you meant this.

Last edited by RICHNWB on December 17, 2005 06:46.
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Post 6 made on Saturday December 17, 2005 at 06:40
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I get more and more calls for ISF calibration, enough that I am actually considering getting the color analyzer from sencom. Being a Brillian dealer it is a requirement and while we have lots of test gear that piece isn't one of them. One thing to consider in relation to the calibration your going to pay for is will your set keep the settings even if you lose power. The Sony sets have a service menu to make board level settings but I am not positive if the memory is non volital or not!
Post 7 made on Saturday December 17, 2005 at 08:51
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On December 17, 2005 at 06:40, AVDesignPro said...
I get more and more calls for ISF calibration,
enough that I am actually considering getting
the color analyzer from sencom. Being a Brillian
dealer it is a requirement and while we have lots
of test gear that piece isn't one of them. One
thing to consider in relation to the calibration
your going to pay for is will your set keep the
settings even if you lose power. The Sony sets
have a service menu to make board level settings
but I am not positive if the memory is non volital
or not!

Its Sencore and they can be found at www.sencore.com. They make some excellent products and they have seminars throughout the year to show you how to get the most out of their gear. Used to be a purchasing agent for them in the early 90's, so yes I am partial to them. All their products are made in the USA. And they are highly recommended by the ISF.

My $.02
Post 8 made on Saturday December 17, 2005 at 13:15
idodishez
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On December 17, 2005 at 08:51, Wire Nuts said...
Its Sencore and they can be found at www.sencore.com.
They make some excellent products and they have
seminars throughout the year to show you how to
get the most out of their gear. Used to be a purchasing
agent for them in the early 90's, so yes I am
partial to them. All their products are made in
the USA. And they are highly recommended by the
ISF.

My $.02

Just got an e-mail from Sencore about a 4 hour calibration training at CES for $49. $49!!! OK, whats the catch? Much less than the $10k or so I was looking at before. (OK, thats not apples to apples, but still)
No, I wont install your plasma with an orange extension cord hanging down the wall.

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Post 9 made on Saturday December 17, 2005 at 13:16
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The ATSC sets the broadcast standards for "tuning" your set.

The Imaging Science Foundation can hook you up with a certified calibrationist who can "calibrate" your set to achieve it's best possible performance, as measured against standards of accurate color production, brightness, etc.

Keep in mind that the ISF requires calibrators participating in the Brillian program to have an optical comparator, or other D65-accurate white reference to ensure that they are setting the white level correctly. Tri-stimulus color pods and spectraradiometers are great tools, but they must be checked for accuracy. You also need to periodically get your calibration tools calibrated. (Yes, they calibrate their calibration-tool calibration tools!)

There is a lot of overhead, training, and experience involved that requires the best calibrationists (the ones who can document an improvement and are unlikely to do any harm to the set) to charge more for their time.
Post 10 made on Saturday December 17, 2005 at 13:25
idodishez
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On December 17, 2005 at 13:16, avophiliac said...
You also need to
periodically get your calibration tools calibrated.
(Yes, they calibrate their calibration-tool calibration
tools!)

Never HAD my tool calibrated before. Does it hurt? Is it legal?
No, I wont install your plasma with an orange extension cord hanging down the wall.

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Post 11 made on Saturday December 17, 2005 at 13:35
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On December 17, 2005 at 13:25, idodishez said...
Never HAD my tool calibrated before. Does it
hurt? Is it legal?

In Vegas, everything is legal, and $49 is not a bad price!
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Post 12 made on Sunday December 18, 2005 at 13:58
Tom Ciaramitaro
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On December 17, 2005 at 00:24, sonyman said...

what im looking for is info on this
process that puts some kind of scanner or something
on the screen that figures out, were i guess the
3 tubes hit the glass or something like that.

Different thing... that is called convergence, and you can usually do that from the setup menu on your TV. Start in the middle and work your way around the edges. A little practice and you will get the hang of it.

The $400 calibration is a different critter, as noted in above posts.
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