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Post 1 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 10:13
ceied
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ok fellow tech heads need some real input with a dash of sarcasm and maybe a good pelting.....

i have a new 50" plasma for my house...... i will be installing a5.1auddio system with it....dilema is this

inwall or onwall speakers.....for the l,c,r

the are from same manufacturer and sound identical...,....i have both just cant decide

ed
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
Post 2 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 11:10
Theaterworks
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In-wall, the pro's choice.
Carpe diem!
Post 3 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 11:21
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I'm going to be doing this at my house come the first of the year. I'm going in-wall...
Post 4 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 11:39
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There are two ways to look at this. In-walls look good, and if you use a good quality speaker, sounds good also. An added bonus is in-wall's also keeps the wife happy too. The other side of the coin is speaker box design is a science, and the sound quality will alway sound better than a in-wall speaker. At least if you use a good quality speaker. I won't get into naming brands of speakers, as I have found it's a personal choice of the installer and, or the clients ears. My personal opinion is a speaker in a box designed around the spekers installed in them will always sound better. If you prepare the wall you are installing an in-wall into you can come close, and have a good sounding room. Also, do the math on your room size etc.

Hope this helps
Datahead
Post 5 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 12:47
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Why not use an inwall speaker with a box, like Triad?

CJ
I'm not a pro
Post 6 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 13:47
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real question is what manuf made the speakers? and what amp?
OP | Post 7 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 15:25
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i dont want to give names...but anyone who has seen past posts by me knows what equipment i have in my house.....

dont want to use triad type speakers with back boxes....i have plaster over plaster board wall is like 1 1/2 inches deep, crazy..... more like cement over plaster board.....

the walls as is will sound fantastic with some fiber glass in them....

either way i go they will sound identicle . i already did a blind a/b test and i could not tell the difference and had no preference.

amp will be ADA or maybe an integra 4.6 not sure yet......

i guess i will do the exact opposite of what i would recommend to my customers just to spite myself.....i would tell customer to do inwall so i guess i will do onwall....then when somone asks....i'll tell them the truth.....i did it because
1 i can
2 to spite myself
3 for a change of pace.....

or i'll hire another pro to install my stuff and tell him to suprise me....

or maybe flip a coin

or rock paper scissors with my wife

i hate doing crap at my own house.....

ed
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
Post 8 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 15:45
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It depends on the company. We use B&W, so I would probably use FPM on-wall speakers. They are good looking speakers and sound fantastic. Plus, plasma tvs stick off the wall several inches, the FPM series compliment this look.

On the other hand, if I were recessing the tv to put the screen flush it's a no-brainer to put in-wall speakers in.
Post 9 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 16:28
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If your going to spite yourself.......then you should at least do it right. Go get yourself an Aiwa shelf system (or a philips, you can pick the turd) and run the wires exposed. Then lose the remote.
Gunga.....Gunga....GU-Lunga

And since Ernie won't keep count, I will. Hes up to 249, and counting.
OP | Post 10 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 16:29
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i was thinking craico myself. no remote with bell wire
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
Post 11 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 16:31
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You could call the Sat./Cable guy out and have him decide...
Post 12 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 16:38
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On December 8, 2005 at 15:25, ceied said...
Either way I go, they will sound identical. I
already did a blind a/b test. I could not tell
the difference and had no preference.

There's your answer: it makes no difference sonically, so your choice should be made on looks. If your wall is some non-offensive light color, in-walls will probably look better than "wall wart" speakers. If the wall is some custom color, or faux painted, inwall speakers can be painted to match. So it should definitely be inwalls.

Incidentally, as far as the terminology goes, since on-wall speakers sit some inches off the wall, it might be better to call them "bubos" (look this up AND read "The Naked Lunch") or "polyps" than "warts." That's it -- warts sit on the surface, but bubos and polyps have a stem of some sort.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 13 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 16:56
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We use the B&W FPM series on-wall speakers with most of our plasma installs. We are very happy with the performance, and they look great too... as long as they are installed properly (spacing). They come in Silver or Black.
OP | Post 14 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 17:32
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ok boys lets end this thread..

i have been visited by the voices in my head and they said do the ......

onwalls or "bubos" as so elliquentlay put in a previous post

ed
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
Post 15 made on Thursday December 8, 2005 at 19:43
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Aw man, you should use some big, humongous towers.......


Better sound through largeness.......ain't that how it's supposed to work?
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