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Denon Multi-room Question
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Post 1 made on Wednesday October 16, 2002 at 15:00
Jason Walter
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Anyone know how to make a Denon 2802 or 3802 power off but keep the multiroom on?

There has to be a setting to make this happen, right?

Jason Walter
Post 2 made on Wednesday October 16, 2002 at 16:50
Bruce Hartley
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why?
Post 3 made on Thursday October 17, 2002 at 01:45
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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No matter what you do, there is only one power switch and it turns both zones on at once. But let me rephrase your question, because the answer is in asking the question right:

Anyone know how to make a Denon 2802 or 3802's main zone silent but keep the multiroom on?

Sure. Switch the main zone to Video Aux, where chances are real good that nothing is plugged in. Whenever I program a Pronto with one of these receivers, an option for both zones is to silence them so the other zone can play solo. The shutdown routine also switches both zones to Video Aux to avoid:
1.Turn on Home Theater for a quiet Sunday morning movie.
2.Patio Speakers blast neighbors with Zone 2 on Acid Rock station with high audio level from yesterday's party....

"Silence a zone" also lets you kill the sound outdoors while someone is watching a movie without turning off the receiver and thus the movie. And vice versa.
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OP | Post 4 made on Thursday October 17, 2002 at 09:04
Jason Walter
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Yeah, that's how we have been doing it..

But...

The Harman Kardon's will actually allow you to turn off the receiver, which shuts down the power, display, everything except a small red word "Multi" and it passes the multi-room output to an amp.

This is a great feature. Why keep a receiver running if you don't need to? All your doing is passing a pre-amp signal.

Jason Walter
Post 5 made on Thursday October 17, 2002 at 11:21
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I think the new Denon 3803 offers discrete power for the multizone, but I am not certain of this.
Post 6 made on Thursday October 17, 2002 at 12:28
Don O'Brien
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Looking at the picture of the remote control on page 15 of the manual it appears to have discrete on/off buttons for zone2 that are separate from the main zone on/off.
The problem at this price point is convicing the customer to spend appreciably more money for a pronto or second amp.
Post 7 made on Thursday October 17, 2002 at 16:50
Tom Ciaramitaro
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The Integra receivers offer the main off and the Zone 2 stays alive. Them Denon's are odd dudes...
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Post 8 made on Thursday October 17, 2002 at 18:47
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the marantz 6200 and i believe the 5200 as well both allow the multi-zone amp to run independently of the main amp and the cost is roughly the same price point as the denon
Post 9 made on Friday October 18, 2002 at 07:21
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use a 3803 or 1803
Post 10 made on Friday October 18, 2002 at 11:02
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Don,
when you say "it," are you referring to the 3802 or the 3803?
THEman,
do you mean, somehow, the Marantz 5200 remote? I don't know the Marantz product line and "5200" was too vague for an internet search....
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Post 11 made on Saturday October 19, 2002 at 00:43
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The new Denon 3803 does indeed have separate power status for Zone 2 as does the new Yamaha RXV-2300. Rotel does as well, but Zone 2 uses the same input commands as Zone 1 which pretty much necessitates a keypad hooked up to its Zone 2 IR in or manually selecting the Zone 2 source from the front panel. Rotel's Zone 2 is also independant of the Record Out selection controls, so technically, it could be used as a 3 Zone system. Of the three, only Denon can run 5.1 surround PLUS a stereo second zone without the use of any additional power amps.
Post 12 made on Saturday October 19, 2002 at 11:07
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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craig,
Actually, a new Yamaha can do this as well. It's the RXV3000, I think. I won't even bother with a two zone system with an amp that cannot do this. (There might also be a Sony ES that does this,)
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Post 13 made on Saturday October 19, 2002 at 18:21
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The Marantz SR8200 and SR9200 will do Zone 2 discretely from Zone 1, will supply stereo amplification for Zone 2 when used 5.1 for main zone and includes a RC3200 remote.
Post 14 made on Saturday October 19, 2002 at 23:56
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Ernie -

Yes, the RXV-3000 can do 5.1 and a stereo Zone 2 without a supplemental amp, but the amps that run Zone 2 are the crappy little 25 Watt amps originally intended to run yamaha's Front Effects Speakers. The RXV-3000 also costs about twice as much as a 3803. The Yamaha RXV-2300 steals the front and rear center channel amps for Z2, so you get a decent amount of power, but a phantom center channel. Conclusion - if you're going to use a separate amp for Z2, any of these receivers will work fine, but if your looking for a one-box solution at about a grand, go Denon.
Post 15 made on Sunday October 20, 2002 at 00:56
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You should be able to hit Mute to kill the main zone and it will not affect the 2nd zone.
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