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Post 1 made on Saturday November 5, 2005 at 17:46
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anyone actually do fiber work....or am i a dinosaur.......

speaking of which anyone using the dvi to fiber breakouts? any luck or stay away.....

i have a dod (department of defence) job i might needto use them on.
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Post 2 made on Saturday November 5, 2005 at 21:22
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Pioneer used to make something like that for the plasmas. It was big coin. Worked like a million bucks though. It was a 30m extension for their pioneer and elite plasmas. Retailed at $1,600.
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OP | Post 3 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 20:33
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ok i guess nobody does fiber work
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
Post 4 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 21:46
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ceied,
I haven't done any fiber work yet, but have some coming up in the near future.
There is a company located near me that does the training.
Depending on what you are doing will determine the length of the class and the cert. For what I was looking at, it was a 3 day crash course. The cost was around 1200.00. It's the equipment that's the killer.
The company that does the training, also sells new and refurbished equipment. The refurbished equipment was between 1200 & 1500. I haven't even considered fiber for prewires in residential homes. I am going to be doing fiber pulls for small schools..
OP | Post 5 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:07
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fyi...and i did not tell you this...but leviton and the leviton rep from my area both came over and gave us a crash course in fiber and terminating it........this is probably the best thing we have done in a while as far as training......

we use the leviton apoxy system......tool kit was 800 bucks at graybar if i remember right....

the fiber anylizer was more but really not needed...... great thing about fiber is either it passes light or it doesnt....... it passes traffic or doesnt....but again you did not hear that from me.
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
Post 6 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:26
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ceied,
I hear ya, or maybe I don't? LOL... Thanks for the info. Sounds better than what I was going to do. Your right though. It either passes light or it doesn't. Thanks...
What are you asking questions for? It sounds to me like your ready to go?
Post 7 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:36
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I did the Leviton Fiber and Cat 6 certifiction awhile back. We use the reusable fiber ends. We did trim out a house with fiber in oure area and using a few runs for networking to another building on the property. Was a simple termination and has been working well for several years now. We purchased a termination kit with the scope and tools..Was around 600-800 dollars

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Post 8 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:38
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I'll have to look into Leviton for sure...
Post 9 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:45
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On 11/07/05 22:07 ET, ceied said...
the fiber anylizer was more but really not needed......
great thing about fiber is either it passes light
or it doesnt....... it passes traffic or doesnt....but
again you did not hear that from me.

Knowledge is a dangerous thing... but a little knowledge is even more dangerous!

Your statement that the fiber either works or doesn't is so untrue. The reason the end of the fiber is polished, and the reason you check using an analyser, is to look for reflections. If the end of the fiber is poorly polished, it may work fine at low speeds, and begin to fail as the load becomes greater.

I always find the Custom Installers Lounge to be interesting. No trunk slammer should be allowed to install audio/video, but Custom Installers should be able to Slam Trunk on any other installation areas they want!!!
Post 10 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 22:54
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On 11/07/05 22:45 ET, bcf1963 said...
Knowledge is a dangerous thing... but a little
knowledge is even more dangerous!

Your statement that the fiber either works or
doesn't is so untrue. The reason the end of the
fiber is polished, and the reason you check using
an analyser, is to look for reflections. If the
end of the fiber is poorly polished, it may work
fine at low speeds, and begin to fail as the load
becomes greater.

I always find the Custom Installers Lounge to
be interesting. No trunk slammer should be allowed
to install audio/video, but Custom Installers
should be able to Slam Trunk on any other installation
areas they want!!!

LOL...thats funny bcf....Slam trunk, But so true
There's no worse feeling than that millisecond you're sure you are going to die after leaning your chair back a little too far.
Post 11 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 23:09
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This post started on the 5th, with no replies until tonight.
ceied makes an off the cuff comment, and now people here stand up and take notice... That's funny....
Post 12 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 23:30
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On 11/07/05 23:09 ET, Instalz said...
This post started on the 5th, with no replies
until tonight.
ceied makes an off the cuff comment, and now
people here stand up and take notice... That's
funny....

Actually I think it means that the rest of us had a good weekend. In other words, "We've got a Life!"
Post 13 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 23:51
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Now that we're on the subject. (trunk slammers) I would love to hear a clearly defined definition of the word.
Here's my take on it. When I was in the cable installation business, we called someone who did shabby work a hack. That someone didn't hang new drops when needed, connected HSD or a digi box to a 59 line, left cables hanging down the side of a house, or in a basement. Those guys didn't last long.
They made me look like a super hero, and I appreciated that, as I was the one who got called out and paid to fix it.
If a trunk slammer is what I think he or she is, then what's the problem? Your going to look like a hero when you roll in to fix it, and your going to get paid well to do it. They aren't going to last long in this business, or any business.
A trunk slammer isn't what I would call someone who takes on a challenge, follows thru to the end, and makes it right.
Satisfies their customer, and learns something along the way.
Makes a little money crafting their skill, or maybe even loses money doing it. No matter what you do, it's about your passion. Your goal to succeed, your caring about your reputation.
I have owned a couple of businesses throughout the years. This one was the one that I knew the most about, and I'm far from an expert. I learn something new everyday, either here on this forum or out in the field. The one thing that is the common denominator in all of my business endeavors is my will to succeed, and my relationship with my customers.
People trust me. I don't BS my customers. I do what I say I'm going to do, I'm there when I say I'll be there. People like that no matter what business your in.
I lay in bed at night, running jobs thru my head. Did I do this, or did I do that, did I forget something. It drives me nuts sometimes, but in the end, when I finish a job, no matter how small it was, I pull away knowing my customer is happy.
I'm sure that if ceied terminated a bad fiber connection, he's not going to walk away from it, he's going to learn from it, and make it right. I would find it hard to believe that there are many on this forum who would or have looked at a job, and said "can't be done" I see too many on this forum with a real sense of pride, and craftmanship. They are going to take the challenge head on. They come here, they ask questions, they learn. They make it happen.
My definition of a trunk slammer is the person who screws up a job, and rather than make it right, they walk away. Those people rarely would even take the time to frequent a forum like this as in their minds it's a waste of time.
People who frequent this forum are the one's that roll up their sleeves and get it done.
Compared to many of you, I'm a newby to this forum, and at times I feel inadequite posting here. I don't come here with the sole purpose of knocking people down, and neither should anyone else.
There should only be 2 groups of people here, most fall into both groups.
1. Those who care and want to educate.
2. Those who care and want to be educated.
Take care guys... Bobby....
Post 14 made on Tuesday November 8, 2005 at 00:01
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bcf1963, that hurt.
Funny thing is, your right. I did post on Sunday morning (the weekend). Just before I went to my son's football game. But wait a minute, you posted on Sunday too.
Take care.....
OP | Post 15 made on Tuesday November 8, 2005 at 19:34
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i'm sorry i forgot to mention the fact that you had to polish the fiber so it reflects real good.........

i'll make sure i dont slam the trunk on my fingers or get little glass shards in my fingers

lighten up guys........ i guess i cant make stupid off the cuff remarks without qualifiing them or running it past the r.c.chat police.

i think most people took my post for what it is......if you do your fiber properly reallly no use for the big analyzer to check reflections....even though you put it on and test it only to find you did another quality termination......


i'll make sure i mess up my terminations so it cant pass data at rated speeds so i dont ever get another job with my repeat customers.

i hope this post is ooooozzing in sarcasm cuz its supposed to be.
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
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