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Quality sound from PC for MP3s?
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Post 16 made on Monday October 31, 2005 at 19:06
ceied
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if you cant tell the difference between 320, 192 and uncompressed on the equipment you sell you are selling really bad equipment. you can hear the compression on a cheapbookshelf system if you listen.......

i wish i had your 98% of customers cuz mine know the difference.

do yourself a favor make a cd with same song at different bit rates...throw it in your car cd player.....you wil hear the difference

then take same cd and play it over a mid ine sound system.....

on a high end sound system you wont be able to stand how bad it sounds
Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"...
Post 17 made on Monday October 31, 2005 at 23:50
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On 10/31/05 14:29 ET, michaeljc70 said...
The PC motherboard does support an "optional"
SPDIF output. I have to see if the connector is
in the motherboard box (there is abunch of connectors
in there).

If I do have the option (or buy the option) of
optical, my whole house distribution amp does
not support optical, only RCA jack analog inputs.
How do you convert?


P.S. I have a Xantech ZPR-68 and PA1235 for the
distribution.

I thought my two earlier threads gave plenty of details, apparently more words are not better for you.

Try finding the answer yourself!!! Go to Google, and try a search based on "spdif converter". I know you will get plenty of good solutions. Usually to learn something, you have to put in a bit of effort.
OP | Post 18 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 10:41
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I didn't say 98% of people that buy custom installed audio! I'm sure you know, 99% of people don't have custom installed audio in their home. They have a receiver they bought at Walmart that came with surround sound speakers and a DVD/receiver combo and it costs $99. That is more the norm than custom installed audio.


On 10/31/05 19:06 ET, ceied said...
if you cant tell the difference between 320, 192
and uncompressed on the equipment you sell you
are selling really bad equipment. you can hear
the compression on a cheapbookshelf system if
you listen.......

i wish i had your 98% of customers cuz mine know
the difference.

do yourself a favor make a cd with same song at
different bit rates...throw it in your car cd
player.....you wil hear the difference

then take same cd and play it over a mid ine sound
system.....

on a high end sound system you wont be able to
stand how bad it sounds
OP | Post 19 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 10:45
michaeljc70
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I wasn't being lazy! I did google it and searched Radio Shack. Radio Shack doesn't have a converter. Googling returns mostly analog TO ooptical, not vice versa. A lot refer to 'TOSLINK" which I have no idea what that is. I know this is probably off-topic as this is not a custom installer question. Sorry.

On 10/31/05 23:50 ET, bcf1963 said...
I thought my two earlier threads gave plenty of
details, apparently more words are not better
for you.

Try finding the answer yourself!!! Go to Google,
and try a search based on "spdif converter".
I know you will get plenty of good solutions.
Usually to learn something, you have to put in
a bit of effort.
Post 20 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 12:17
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Yeah, what is "TOSLINK" anyway????
Post 21 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 12:46
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A TOSlink cable allows your Toshiba Cinema series to connect to the internet so that it can be color corrected and ISF certified over the internet. Broadband service is required.
Gunga.....Gunga....GU-Lunga

And since Ernie won't keep count, I will. Hes up to 249, and counting.
Post 22 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 12:49
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Look on the back of your DVD player. Youll see a little door with a red glow coming from behind it. Open that up and take a gander. Then insert your TOSlink cable there. Or your optical cable, whatever you want to call it.
Gunga.....Gunga....GU-Lunga

And since Ernie won't keep count, I will. Hes up to 249, and counting.
Post 23 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 12:58
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A Toslink cable is a fiber optic cable that carries S/PDIF signal.
example: DVD to receiver or PC to DAC(Digital to Analogue Convertor)
I don't know if they are around anymore but the Entech Number Cruncher 203.2 was a nice and reasonably priced.
Post 24 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 13:34
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On 11/01/05 12:46 ET, Carl Spackler said...
A TOSlink cable allows your Toshiba Cinema series
to connect to the internet so that it can be color
corrected and ISF certified over the internet.
Broadband service is required.

Thanks Carl! It all makes sense now! I always wondered how they justified the amount of money they charge for one of those Cinema sets.. ;)
Post 25 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 13:44
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On 11/01/05 13:34 ET, cma said...
Thanks Carl! It all makes sense now! I always
wondered how they justified the amount of money
they charge for one of those Cinema sets.. ;)

The reason they cost so much, isn't the internet calibration. Its because 3 Portugese children are killed for every two sets that roll off the assemble line.
Gunga.....Gunga....GU-Lunga

And since Ernie won't keep count, I will. Hes up to 249, and counting.
Post 26 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 14:21
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On 11/01/05 13:44 ET, Carl Spackler said...
The reason they cost so much, isn't the internet
calibration. Its because 3 Portugese children
are killed for every two sets that roll off the
assemble line.

Does that also explain 3:2 pulldown?
Post 27 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 14:39
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On 11/01/05 14:21 ET, cma said...
Does that also explain 3:2 pulldown?

I was under the impression that the 3:2 pulldown refered to a lowering ones pants during a 3 girl:2 Pillow scene on the Spice channel.

But your explanation makes a lot more sense, and I actually think your onto something there. We should start a company.
Gunga.....Gunga....GU-Lunga

And since Ernie won't keep count, I will. Hes up to 249, and counting.
Post 28 made on Tuesday November 1, 2005 at 20:13
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Someone whipe the soda off the monitor please... Depends if the 3:2 pulldown was in effect when it hit the screen.
Post 29 made on Wednesday November 2, 2005 at 10:30
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On 11/01/05 10:45 ET, michaeljc70 said...
I wasn't being lazy! I did google it and searched
Radio Shack. Radio Shack doesn't have a converter.

And we all know Radio Shack is the "Go To" source for the latest and most sophisticated technology! (Do you sense a hint of sarcasm here?)

Googling returns mostly analog TO ooptical, not
vice versa.

So by mostly you mean it does also return some optical to analog. In my experience, 1 correct solution is better than many bad ones.

A lot refer to 'TOSLINK" which I have
no idea what that is. I know this is probably
off-topic as this is not a custom installer question.
Sorry.

Sounds like you need a basic digital audio explanation. You've mentioned multiple times that you don't know what TOSLINK is. I mentioned Google, with the idea that it would get you down the road of learning... you would try to answer a couple of your own questions. Apparently that is too vague for you. Now Google "TOSLINK". The highest rank hit will be a definition of what TOSLINK is. Was that real hard? Give us a bit of a break, you need to make a little effort here.
Post 30 made on Thursday November 3, 2005 at 23:51
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There has been one area of quality missing from this thread. That is how to best make the MP3 you can. There is more to good MP3 files than just the bit rate used. http://mp3.radified.com/ contains some very good information on creating quality MP3 and has links for addional information. It even discusses lossless compression too.

If your going to make MP3 files you might as well make a good ones.
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