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| Topic: | old dog and new tricks This thread has 26 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 01:05 |
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ok i've been in business for 12 years...
need to change some of the bad habits i have developed over the years......
was thinking about d-tools as well......being an old dog, can this be a new trick...is it worth it, ease of use? learning curve? or just give up and be an old dog...lol
actually any feedback on d-tools woud be good...i dont know anyone arounf here that uses it that i could talk to.
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| Post 2 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 01:13 |
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[Link: remotecentral.com]Many many threads on this subject. Also try the search function.
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| OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 01:19 |
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yeah i was tooling around the d-tools posts but not getting a good feel
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| Post 4 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 07:41 |
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The general consensus seems to be: Once it's up and running, it's absolutely great, and indispensible. Getting it up and running, however is a very large undertaking. Only take it on if you are willing to spend a lot of time on it. We've been using it for close to a year, and are only now getting to the point where we can write proposals faster with d-tools than without.
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| Post 5 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 09:38 |
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We had D-Tools for a bit over a year and never had the time to use it, we found it cumbersome and So freaking expensive to maintain. We dropped it and moved over to SRS and are beginning to use it now, still starting it up but seems a bit easier to use, we will see in a month or so where we are at.
I have also used the horizon software over the years and liked it for what it was
While at CEDIA management last year, D tools was only used by 3-5% of all attendees I asked, Most hated it or only used very little of it. The usual answer I got was that they used word, excel, horizon, SRS, their own
I woed with Dtools at another company and they had 4-6 people per job just for dtools and swore by it....we didnt have that luxury..we have 1-2 guys for all the jobs to use it
I guess its really a personal preference of what to use
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| OP | Post 6 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 17:07 |
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sorry to start such a debate on dtools...but this is good info...lets face it 1500 bucks is a lot of money for something that may not work.....
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| Post 7 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 18:12 |
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On 10/25/05 17:07 ET, ceied said...
sorry to start such a debate on dtools...but this
is good info...lets face it 1500 bucks is a lot
of money for something that may not work..... I thought it was a lot more than that. For some reason I thought D-tools was more then SRS, and I was quoted (if I recall correctly) about $5k for SRS at Cedia.
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| OP | Post 8 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 18:26 |
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$5 grand...they can bite me....i'll stick to quickbooks, visio and autocad. what a rip off....for 5 grand they better suck on my left nut everyday for a year........
maybe thats why i never persued the dtools stuff
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Ed will be known as the Tiger Woods of the integration business, followed closely with the renaming of his company to "Hotties A/V". The tag line will be "We like big racks and tight holes"... |
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| Post 9 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 18:40 |
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I use Excel, Quick books and Word as well as Viseo.
The trick is really knowing how to use these all in conjunction with each other.
I suggest that you take yourself out of the field for a weekend and then some days and make these programs work for you. You must have a better than entry knowledge of these programs.
If you like what you see in these or any other programs you must stick to them as they become your back bone. You don't need to be wasting time "trying" out alternatives.
Quick books is great because you can link up to your bank in most cases and get downloads.
I know D-Tools and while it is a good program I do better with Excel etc.
The key is knowing the program and all it has to offer. Spend some time really getting to know excel and quickbooks and word. Inthe long run it will be worth it.
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| OP | Post 10 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 19:27 |
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thanks...my thoughts exactly
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| Post 11 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 21:45 |
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We just flushed D-tools this week, tired of the monthly fees and the raising costs. We just bought a new program for cheap cheap and we will start implementing it soon.
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| Post 12 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 22:20 |
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Perhaps if the extensive amount of data entry required to get dtools working optimally was bundled in with the price of the package it'd be worth it.
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| Post 13 made on Tuesday October 25, 2005 at 23:36 |
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On 10/25/05 21:45 ET, Yeti said...
We just flushed D-tools this week, tired of the
monthly fees and the raising costs. We just bought
a new program for cheap cheap and we will start
implementing it soon. Care to share what this new program is??? TIA Robbie S
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| Post 14 made on Wednesday October 26, 2005 at 21:53 |
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sure, as soon as i remember...lol. ill get the name for ya.
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| Post 15 made on Wednesday October 26, 2005 at 22:11 |
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On 10/25/05 17:07 ET, ceied said...
...lets face it 1500 bucks is a lot
of money for something that may not work..... Oh it works, and in my opinion is the only truly comprehensive software for the A/V integration professional. With that being said I am not saying it will be easy to get up to speed or cheap to buy, own or maintain, but if you are serious about being a top shelf integrator it is a necessity. I hope Blake from D-Tools will chime in and add to this, as he knows the product as well as anyone could. If you are looking to start out w/ D-tools, first you really need to get Microsoft Visio down pat, or at least be comfortable with it. and then move on from there.
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