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Electrical Inspectors requiring journey man's lisence
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Post 1 made on Saturday August 20, 2005 at 14:05
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Post 2 made on Saturday August 20, 2005 at 14:34
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There have been rumours of low volt lisencing for the last few years, but I havent heard anything about tying it to electrical. Maybe inspectors should start fining electricians when they staple coax and cat5 down untill the jacket changes colors. One problem with inspectors that I've seen is some really dont know the codes and just make it up as they go. I was on a retro site recently where the inspector rejected the plumbers waste line because it passed through a wall stud that was non load bearing and interior.
It's such a fine line between stupid, and clever.
Post 3 made on Saturday August 20, 2005 at 18:22
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Post 4 made on Saturday August 20, 2005 at 18:25
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It depends on the state you are in. Here in Ct you need a low voltage lisence to pull wiring and a low voltage "masters" to pull the permit. The funny part is no license is required to terminate.
Post 5 made on Saturday August 20, 2005 at 18:35
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Post 6 made on Sunday August 21, 2005 at 03:03
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The NEC is not law, but is offered by the NFPA for use as law by municipalities.
Post 7 made on Sunday August 21, 2005 at 03:19
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CA already has a low voltage license, seperate from the electrical license. It's a good thing, and not a hard license to get. Makes sense for things like fire protection/alarms.
Post 8 made on Sunday August 21, 2005 at 05:47
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On 08/21/05 03:03 ET, Larry Fine said...
The NEC is not law, but is offered by the NFPA
for use as law by municipalities.

The NEC was designed for a minimum safety regualtion and was always to be left to interpritation by the local jurisidiction, however all of the states adopted this as the minimum standard therfore making it in effect enforceable by the law, not a law in its self. A home cannot be built today without conforming to NEC whether a contractor or a homeowner pulls the permit. (there are certain exceptions like ag use) In effect you are right that the NEC is not a law in its self, but the NEC is the minimum standard that is enforced across the board whether its the state, county, township or city. Violating the permit requirements of your area (if your electrical inspector requires an electrical license for pulling low voltage wiring, as which can be interperated by the NEC as their responsibility) (here again interperated is the key word, which is entirely up to the local juridiction) can be enforced as breaking the law. So depending how you look at things and how issues may be interperated, it is a gray area that can land you in hot water with the law, for if a certain inpectors belief that you willingfully violated their requirements of permiting and licensing, you will be in violation of the law by not adhearing to their procedures. I had this very conversation with a michigan inspector and the county sheriff once over a job where we refused to pull the hvac guys thermostat wire (because we did not agree with their interperation of the code). Granted this was 10 years ago, but I have heard of other instances just like this from friends in the industry where over zeleous inspectors make bad judgement calls about this area. Its not common, but it does happen occationally.
Post 9 made on Sunday August 21, 2005 at 07:50
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CEDIA government-affairs group monitors this pretty carefully for each state. You can enroll in the grass-root effort here, and you should get updates on related legislation in your area. (I was on CEDIA's leg. committee)
[Link: cedia.net]

Nicholas Pasyanos, however, has left CEDIA and he was in charge of govt policy. And Gerry Demple, formerly from Ultimate Electronics was chair of the group, and he's been out of commission for awhile, so the group has quieted down a little. Still, worth checking out the site (more info avail if you enter site as a member).

Darren Reaman is really the guy on top of leg. issues over there, and I'm sure he would be more than happy to steer you in the right direction if you contact him:
dreaman AT cedia DOT org
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