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Post 16 made on Monday April 25, 2005 at 20:20
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On 04/25/05 15:46 ET, bronco991 said...
We are having a pro install it...we are only putting
in 1 color screen though, and the rest the pads
with the intercom

Well, you're not getting the pads anytime soon as they still aren't shipping.

I only install DigilinX with Request ARQ servers - not Escient. The Escient interface was just completed and I haven't had a reason to try it. The ARQ interface was the first and works incredibly well.

Make sure your installer knows how to 'group' rooms with the new firmware. Especially since you won't have a touchscreen in each room. The keylinx is a little tough to control the source (I have seen Beta versions but am still waiting on mine to ship. Uggggg)

FWIW - I love Digilinx (even without video support (sorry Gary)).
Post 17 made on Tuesday April 26, 2005 at 09:17
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I love audio too, but in the world of music servers, if you do not have video, you defeat the entire purpose. If you cannot view your music collection, you cannot choose your music.
Post 18 made on Tuesday April 26, 2005 at 11:58
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On 04/25/05 20:13 ET, augsys said...
Audio only in an audio/video world.

No thanks.

The Audio sounds better than most anything distributed out there, and the Video is on the way. I can see what the Music server is doing, which is all thats needed for a lot of jobs. And with HiDef distribution still in the "high" price range, its prefered to do all that locally if possible. Distributing S or compos just doesnt cut it. I do see your point, but don't think its the be all end all of the system.
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Post 19 made on Tuesday April 26, 2005 at 12:40
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On 04/26/05 11:58 ET, Carl Spackler said...
The Audio sounds better than most anything distributed
out there, and the Video is on the way. I can
see what the Music server is doing, which is all
thats needed for a lot of jobs. And with HiDef
distribution still in the "high" price range,
its prefered to do all that locally if possible.
Distributing S or compos just doesnt cut it. I
do see your point, but don't think its the be
all end all of the system.

S and composite look a lot better than stareing at the wall and certainly is better than a moulator.

How does your Tivo look on that display?

The sad but true fact is that most people spend much more time watching TV than listening to music.

Selling distributed audio may work great for you, but it's not for me.
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Post 20 made on Tuesday April 26, 2005 at 14:00
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I know what your saying, it is a fault in the slaw right now, but they do have the video distribution in the pipeline. But the concept thats been selling it is simply the wonderful control. Granted, considering its still new not to many experiments have been done with it. But I was and still am amazed at the slickness of the control and the pure sound quality. The PDA control of the music manager is another strong point.
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OP | Post 21 made on Tuesday April 26, 2005 at 15:50
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When are the keypads shipping? I don't want to have to wait...Is it just the color one that is not shipping yet?
Post 22 made on Tuesday April 26, 2005 at 17:10
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On 04/26/05 09:17 ET, PennyG said...
I love audio too, but in the world of music servers,
if you do not have video, you defeat the entire
purpose. If you cannot view your music collection,
you cannot choose your music.

Thats the whole point of DigilinX. Two way metadata and control with the touchscreens. I suggest you read up on it.

I just dont see the need to distribute video with the audio system. Use the Audio Control Cat5 video distribution if thats the objective. Maybe its a control issue where you want to control the video with the touchpanels? I would rather use a remote for that. Maybe its camera distribution? Well, the IP Panasonic cameras now work with the Digilinx touchpanels and any computer on the network. Maybe its about HVAC or lights? Well, Aprilaire and Lutron systems integrate with the DIgilinX touchscreens and any computer on the network.

IP is the future and if you don't know networking you're going to be on the outside looking in in a few years time.
OP | Post 23 made on Thursday April 28, 2005 at 21:58
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Any other suggestions?
Post 24 made on Thursday April 28, 2005 at 22:47
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On 04/28/05 21:58 ET, bronco991 said...
Any other suggestions?

To anwser your question, Fireballs are very easy to use, fairly easy to set up if you have decent networking skills, and very reliable.
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Post 25 made on Thursday April 28, 2005 at 23:05
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What is the purpose of the CD changer in the system? To effect CD burning? Why would I want the CD if I have the mp3 on the machine? I don't get it.

Alan
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Post 26 made on Thursday April 28, 2005 at 23:11
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On 04/28/05 23:05 ET, Audible Solutionns said...
What is the purpose of the CD changer in the system?
To effect CD burning? Why would I want the
CD if I have the mp3 on the machine? I don't
get it.

Alan

As I said earlier, it actually makes thingd WORSE to have the CD changer conected and filled!!

And as far as the ripping, it is a CD player, not a data drive.
If there are small errors on the CD, then skips get recorded into the MP3 file. It cannot spin up and re-try the damaged area multiple times to fill the buffer and produce a skip free file.

I'm glad I am not the only one that thinks that Request is absolutely superior product to this machine.
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Post 27 made on Thursday April 28, 2005 at 23:39
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On 04/28/05 23:05 ET, Audible Solutionns said...
What is the purpose of the CD changer in the system?
To effect CD burning? Why would I want the
CD if I have the mp3 on the machine? I don't
get it.

Alan

I wouldn't know, I've never hook a CD changer to a fireball and can't imagine why anyone would.

I've alway assumed this feature was just a holdover from the Tunebase days.
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Post 28 made on Thursday April 28, 2005 at 23:43
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On 04/28/05 23:11 ET, 2nd rick said...
As I said earlier, it actually makes thingd WORSE
to have the CD changer conected and filled!!

And as far as the ripping, it is a CD player,
not a data drive.
If there are small errors on the CD, then skips
get recorded into the MP3 file. It cannot spin
up and re-try the damaged area multiple times
to fill the buffer and produce a skip free file.

I'm glad I am not the only one that thinks that
Request is absolutely superior product to this
machine.

No one's making you use a CD changer the Fireball works fine without one.

And as far a Request goes, they have a user interface only a geek could love.
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Post 29 made on Friday April 29, 2005 at 09:45
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ejfiii,
For those that are young and like to stand next to a itty-bitty screen on the wall, I suppose that the Digilinx system will do.

For me and most of my customers, we prefer a larger viewing screen and a more flexible input/output infrastructure.

I am constantly researching new products, which include Netstreams. I attended more than one Netstreams training seminar and I have chosen not to offer this product to my clients. My reasons are many and stem from my eighteen years of experience in the audio and video world, exhaustive research, and personal testing procedures.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying anything negative about your choice to offer Digilinx or the Netstreams products in general. I am just saying that it doesn't meet my criteria at this time.
OP | Post 30 made on Friday April 29, 2005 at 14:22
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On 04/29/05 09:45 ET, PennyG said...
ejfiii,
For those that are young and like to stand next
to a itty-bitty screen on the wall, I suppose
that the Digilinx system will do.


For me and most of my customers, we prefer a larger
viewing screen and a more flexible input/output
infrastructure.

I am constantly researching new products, which
include Netstreams. I attended more than one
Netstreams training seminar and I have chosen
not to offer this product to my clients. My reasons
are many and stem from my eighteen years of experience
in the audio and video world, exhaustive research,
and personal testing procedures.


Don't get me wrong, I am not saying anything negative
about your choice to offer Digilinx or the Netstreams
products in general. I am just saying that it
doesn't meet my criteria at this time.

We are mostly going to be using laptop's to control everything anyways..so im not worried about that..I think we are going to choose the ReQuest server..
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