I was just irritated to have to deal with a customer's new Mitsubishi TV with a control scam (I mean scheme) called Net Command.

First I'll point out the cool good features, but then I'll have to point out the turds in the punchbowl.

With this system, the Mits remote can be used to control satellite receivers, DVDs, CDs, tuners... apparently using IR emitters connected to the back of the Mits TV. The manual says it can also control an A/V amp. This looks like a cool idea.

Here's the problem: this is a brand new TV that might find a good place in systems automated by a Pronto or whatever, but there is no way to address any input directly. Pushing Channel Up does nothing. To change ANY input, you have to push up or down on a button called DEVICE, which opens a window on the TV screen, then scroll left or right to the desired input, then hit Enter. There is NO WAY AT ALL to automate this input selection technique (okay, I did not check to see if it wraps around when scrolling; if it does not, then the input select macros all start with Device, scroll left five or six times, then scroll right as desired.)

On top of that, the guys who sold this TV sold it with an A/V receiver that cannot be controlled by the TV ! ! So the client cannot even use the TV to select inputs on the A/V receiver, so is stuck using the TV and the receiver remote, no matter how cleverly anything else is done.

Oh, yeah, before I saw the list of receiver brands supported by the TV, I could not figure out how to even select a receiver to control -- I could not highlight the proper box.

Has anybody else set up one of these TVs and can show me to be full of hooey? I would LOVE it, because what I have seen is such a huge step backward.

Fortunately this TV is in a system bought from another dealer, so we do not have to waste our time figuring out how to make it work in order to support our sale. But it was still irritating and disappointing.

Thanks,

Ernie

Ernie, first the bad news. You are full of hooey. The good news is that there are discrete commands built into the remote. Press and hold Power and press 0-9-0
b: Following are the discretes:
Power Button: Discrete ON
Stop Button: Discrete OFF
Device Button, #1: Input 1
Device Button, #2: Input 2
Device Button, #3: Input 3
Device Button, #4: Input 4
Device Button, #5: Component 1
Device Button, #6 Component 2
Device Button, PIP CH UP: Antenna A
Device Button, PIP CH Down: Antenna B
Device Button, PIP/POP: HD Ant A DTV
Device Button, #7: VGA

To revert the Remote back to orig functions: Press and Hold Power while
pressing: 0-0-0

Wash that hooey off as soon as possible.

Thanks for this!

Just one question: how the heck is anyone supposed to know this when they run into a new model? Is there a supersecret phone number I can call to find this out? Are all Mits remotes the same, so I just have to learn this once?

Us hooey-filleds wanna know!

I found from a colleague and we are Mits dealers so I can't tell for sure. This should work on Mits RP's for the last three years. Good Luck

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This message was edited by QQQ on 08/22/02 16:23.12.

oh, yeah, forgot to mention...


none of those codes worked.

The codes work. Ernie, this is not directed at you but I've noticed a lot of people write in looking for complete solutions and don't seem to have any skill at teaching/learning IR codes to remotes. There are so many variables from batteries to environment that make it an art form at times. Problems are overcome with experience that is usually gained through a frustrating and painful time consuming process. If you think NET Command sucks try the Adcom Ball control system. LOL

Shoe,
thanks for the reply. I did, after all, try to get this answer for our remote control programmer, and he tried it out, not I, and we have been known to communicate at less than 100%. He is also new at remote programming, so he does not know all the ridiculous things that we sometimes have to try to get things to work.

Ernie

We bought a Mitsubishi Netcommand TV for Christmas, and I can't tell you how many hours we and our electronically inclined friends have spent trying to hook all our components into it, and have it work. Something always is wrong. We called a local Mits authorized service center, and they didn't want any part of helping us. Anyone have any suggestions??? We would pay someone who knows how if we could only find them!!!!

Of all the Mits. tv's i have sold I have NEVER used and will NEVER use netcommand,

what a crock of sh!t.

I wish they would have put in something useful instead.

Mits has gone downhill for the last 5 years.

My first encounter with net command reminded me of why we shouldn't try and fix something that's not broke.
Sounded good, not practical though.
CMack

Test

Ok, now that I've gotten my postings to work...

When Mits first brought out the netcommand system we were told that the IR codes were years old, due to the fact that they had to use what was available at the time (years ago) when they were developing the system.
Since I've not had much luck getting the netcommand stuff to work properly, I've found that using the pass through feature on the TV works fine. By using the set as a giant IR receiver eye we can eliminate the need for a Niles or Xantech repeater system. In this regard, the netcommand system is a boon to consumers and makes our job easier.

Jeff

I purhcased a Mits 65611 @ a month ago and here is a little of my experience.
HT items consist of the following:
Mits 65611
Dish Network 501
JVC XV-FA900BK DVD Changer
Onkyo TX-SR800 AVR
XboX

I have had the Sony RM-AV 2100, and the 3000 both, which worked fine for my system(the 3000 was much better becasue of the additional hard buttons) it was just a little to clunky for my wife and myself, and also the lighted LCD wasn't really a pleasure to deal with. Now for the Mits Netcommand:
While not complete, it does offer some relief for the above mentioned woes of the Sony(ie, Great design and layout, almost all the hard buttons I could want, and very good and easy to operate back light with convenient on/off light control). It took me several hours to get the system up in the best fashion currently possible, the extended IR emitters weren't the easiest to place. As far as control goes I would give this thing a 3.5 on a scale of 1-5. The only thing I can't directly control that are valued items are the Disc change of the JVC and this is partially a JVC problem, if they would offer an IR command to just scroll forward through the tray life would be better, but as it goes you have to press the Disc button and then the Disc # 1-7 that you want, which the pre-programmed Netcommand JVC DVD component doesn't have. I also can't get into certain items on the receiver, but those aren't things the wife would need, like changing from THX to DTS ES, and so on. I keep a nice decorative box on the coffee table with the actual remotes in it. Overall it took me about 90 seconds to teach the wife to Hit the Device button and then scroll to what she wants to view. After it was set up properly it automatically gives me the correct source(audio & video) for the items that I custom programmed into Netcommand including the custom names come up on the screen. I must say that I had a H/K AVR 525 receiver that I took back for the Onkyo because I found the Mits wouldn't accept it, but as it turns out I actually like to Onkyo and it's breadth of features better than my long time favorite H/K line. So in conclusion, if you have the time/Money which a Customer paying a Custom Installer for steupvery well might or might not have after dropping @ $3K on a TV and can live with out complete control over all functions of your system, for basic system viewing/listening then it's actually alot better than what I have seen from any other Component Mfgr. offering a Universal Remote type system.

If anyone has any specific questions please ask. You can email me at [email protected] if need be. Also, there is supposed to be an upgrade you can get from Mits with additional Netcommand Component codes and controls by way of the memory card slot if you call Mits Tech support, but currently all that is offered is an upgrade to the latest codes if your set didn't already come with them, they will have to have you go into your service menu and give them the software Version to find out if your set needs it.
Thanks
JK