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Splicing Stranded to Solid Wire
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Post 1 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 15:02
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Any splices you guys are aware of that work well for going from a solid wire like Cat 5 to a stranded wire such as the wire that comes off of a Xantech emitter? There's got to be a good splice out there somewhere that's meant for this. The Dolphin connectors work and you can make almost any splice work with some effort but I'm hoping you guys know of a better solution.
Post 2 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 15:14
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We use Dolphins, too.
Carpe diem!
Post 3 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 15:46
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Solder and shrink. :)
OP | Post 4 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 15:52
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On 02/14/05 15:46 ET, jayson said...
Solder and shrink. :)

Thanks so much ;-). Next please?
Post 5 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 16:24
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On 02/14/05 15:52 ET, QQQ said...
Thanks so much ;-). Next please?

I sense a touch of sarcasm. QQQ why not use the cb12 connecting block and make it easy on yourself.
What part of "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." do you not understand?
Post 6 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 16:24
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DoLpHiNs!!
Sometimes you just gotta do a ball check and get errr done !!
Post 7 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 16:35
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On 02/14/05 16:24 ET, mr2channel said...
I sense a touch of sarcasm. QQQ why not use the
cb12 connecting block and make it easy on yourself.

We've had our share of Cat 5 conductors breaking off at the terminal strip doing that. Not tons, but enough to be a headache.
Carpe diem!
Post 8 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 16:41
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Molex connectors. Good clean finish, and if you put IR eyes in equipment, you can unplug if you need to service.
Post 9 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 17:28
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Solder and shrink!! Never Fails. Molex and dolphins are nice too.

Mike
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OP | Post 10 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 17:37
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"Molex" narrows it down to about 1001 connectors :-). Care to share some part numbers?
Post 11 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 19:04
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MCM Electronics part number 28-2180. This is a three conductor 16-22 ga. connector. We use them alot, just be careful not to crimp down too hard on the cat5 or they will break off.

Matt
Post 12 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 19:08
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I use Dolphins too...
but I strip CAT5, and use them as a tiny crimp-cap.
I don't think the bed-of-nails spikes do to well with wire this thin, I think the insulation moves just enough sometimes to zig-zag between the piercing spikes and not make a solid bite.

Note, I crush Dolphins flat with the inner crotch of a set of diagonal cutters, but an installer of mine likes to use his crimpers which have slightly curved jaws and leave a tiny gap. I use that crimp method for butt splices and crimp caps (and I dont really use those anymore) but I was taught to use the diagonal cutters on dolphins.

Any feedback on which way is "proper" in your company??
Larry should have a definitive answer to post...
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OP | Post 13 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 19:35
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On 02/14/05 19:04 ET, diesel said...
MCM Electronics part number 28-2180. This is
a three conductor 16-22 ga. connector. We use
them alot, just be careful not to crimp down too
hard on the cat5 or they will break off.

Thanks. Any idea what the Molex part # is (www.molex.com). MCM does not have a picture on their web site.
Post 14 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 20:34
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Okay, I don't know about "definitive", but since you asked...

How about those little two-hole or three-hole telephone-wire squeeze splices; you know, the ones with the red or yellow button? They're insulation-displacing, have a dab of goop in them, and couldn't be easier to use; just inster and squeeze. (Edit: Let's make that "insert")

If looks aren't important, like inside a wall box or other enclosure, why not just use small wirenuts? Twist the wires together, fold them, and then spin on the wirenut. (I can hear it now:"Hmph! Wirenuts! Just like an electrician!")

You could use the insulated crimp caps, the white ones shaped like a bell, in a pinch (pardon the pun). However, I believe these little dudes are great, with a wire size range from 28 to 14! You can get them in a 5-position block, too.

Look here for more info.

This message was edited by Larry Fine on 02/14/05 21:44 ET.
Post 15 made on Monday February 14, 2005 at 21:06
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QQQ,

Molex part number is a standard .062 wire to wire. From 1-36 positions.

Matt
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