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Marantz Quality
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Post 16 made on Tuesday February 8, 2005 at 14:05
mrtristan
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The only problem I've had with Marantz receivers (and I'm not so sure if it's true for all models now) is that it will not automatically swith to the analogue input if it happens to be unavailable from a cable box's digital output. Here, channels below 100 on a standard box put out only analogue, so with the Marantz receiver I worked with, it had to be switched through the menu. The solution was to keep it in analogue mode at all times.
Post 17 made on Wednesday February 9, 2005 at 01:08
2nd rick
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Do they still use any of the RC-5 codes that toggle??

We haven't been a dealer since the early days of the reconstruction when the faceplates were still rounded and Philips still owned them.
Receivers, amps, and CD players were good for the dough, but theb early DVD players SUCKED.

Also, they had a really nice VCR that had a cast alloy transport mechanism, instead of flimsy stamped tin like everyone else.

I think they lost favor with some key dealers when they launched the video line and forced the dealers to display the overpriced analog RPTVs in the days of the first HD ready sets.
Rick Murphy
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Post 18 made on Wednesday February 9, 2005 at 10:56
RC Geek
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On 02/08/05 14:05 ET, mrtristan said...
The only problem I've had with Marantz receivers
(and I'm not so sure if it's true for all models
now) is that it will not automatically swith to
the analogue input if it happens to be unavailable
from a cable box's digital output. Here, channels
below 100 on a standard box put out only analogue,
so with the Marantz receiver I worked with, it
had to be switched through the menu. The solution
was to keep it in analogue mode at all times.

Hmmm - there's a setting in the input setup and has been for years - Set the input as digital, analog, or auto (D#-AT). I think the last generation that didn't have that were either the 2000 or 2001 models...


On 02/09/05 01:08 ET, 2nd rick said...
Do they still use any of the RC-5 codes that toggle??

Yes, they still use RC5 and that protocol still has a toggle bit.

We haven't been a dealer since the early days
of the reconstruction when the faceplates were
still rounded and Philips still owned them.
Receivers, amps, and CD players were good for
the dough, but theb early DVD players SUCKED.

No argument from me on this point. However, they have much improved this area - last generation and the current generation especially.
Having once decided to achieve a certain task, achieve it at all costs of tedium and distaste. The gain in self-confidence of having accomplished a tiresome labor is immense. -----Arnold Bennett
Post 19 made on Wednesday February 9, 2005 at 14:05
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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On 02/08/05 08:33 ET, DDeca said...
Another problem was inconsistency.


Removable power cords on some of the components
but not others.

Maybe these are made at different factories, which is to say subbed out, and therefore subject to some of the quirks of those companies.

Different IR code labels for
different receivers (DSS is TV on some, VCR2/DSS
is VCR on some, DSS on other and AUX on other),

Yamaha does this, too, and it turned out that they keep costs on remotes down by keeping the button positions consistent, then changing the software in the PROM of the receiver. Thus button ten might be DSS on some receivers, and might be AUX on others. This is irritating but surmountable.

no switched outlet on the preamp?,

A switched outlet would probably require a much heftier UL certification and added cost. The most logical thing to plug into a preamp's switched outlet is a or several power amps, and no label in the world will stop this! So, does it have a trigger output?

IR port on
the rear works with IR sensors on some receivers
but requires a Xantec interface on others.

I assume by "Xantech interface" you mean "voltage/current suitable for an LED." This should definitely be specified. A sensor requires power, and plugging in a normal two-conductor mini plug would short out the power or the data, i.e. would not work.

12V
triggers on some receiver, not other.

Ah. I see. Does this relate to price?

How bout this one... The first batch of DVD3200
(??) had no discrete power codes, later batchs
did have them.

That is definitely nuts.

Mostly little things, but they can drive you crazy
when troubleshooting.

Agreed.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
OP | Post 20 made on Wednesday February 9, 2005 at 14:10
Steve Garn
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Great posts. I think I need better glasses to see thru to a conclusion. Seems we all finally get more or less resigned to accepting the quirks if we finally figure out how to make them work. You know, like prontos and MX's. How we love and hate both of them some days.
Manuals?! We don't need no stinking manuals! a.. er..
Post 21 made on Thursday February 10, 2005 at 16:45
DDeca
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On 02/09/05 14:05 ET, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
Maybe these are made at different factories, which
is to say subbed out, and therefore subject to
some of the quirks of those companies.

I am sure that is the case. We were very happy to switch to Integra which maintains consistency on things like these from a $299 CD player up to a $4000 receiver.

Yamaha does this, too, and it turned out that
they keep costs on remotes down by keeping the
button positions consistent, then changing the
software in the PROM of the receiver. Thus button
ten might be DSS on some receivers, and might
be AUX on others. This is irritating but surmountable.

Very irritating, especially when you need to provide loaners. Even with the same brand you need to tweek out the remote control program. AHHH!

A switched outlet would probably require a much
heftier UL certification and added cost. The
most logical thing to plug into a preamp's switched
outlet is a or several power amps, and no label
in the world will stop this! So, does it have
a trigger output?

No trigger output. Requires a $150 current sensor or similar to trigger.

I assume by "Xantech interface" you mean "voltage/current
suitable for an LED." This should definitely be
specified. A sensor requires power, and plugging
in a normal two-conductor mini plug would short
out the power or the data, i.e. would not work.

Nope. There is an interface that goes from 2 conducter IR data cable to RCA jack (not the more logical mini-plug) input on the receiver. This is in addition to an IR connecting block. Some Marantz receivers can accept IR from IR data cable spliced onto RCA cable, other of the exact same model need the interface.

Ah. I see. Does this relate to price?

Does relate to price. Again, this doesn't stop Integra from having things like these on ALL of their products.
Post 22 made on Friday February 18, 2005 at 09:16
rowdog
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I would like to know if anyone has or sold the marantz sr 9300 and if it is worth the cost?
Post 23 made on Friday February 18, 2005 at 10:49
Fisher
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On 02/09/05 14:10 ET, Steve Garn said...
Great posts. I think I need better glasses to
see thru to a conclusion. Seems we all finally
get more or less resigned to accepting the quirks
if we finally figure out how to make them work.
You know, like prontos and MX's. How we love
and hate both of them some days.

True, although we've abandoned both Pronto and MX for Harmony - which works for us every time, and reduces remote setup times by hours. Plus it's easy to teach to someone.

For my 2 cents, Denon works 100%, has great support, great quality, does everything we need it to - even on the lower-end models. I wouldn't switch to Marantz unless it could offer something exceptional that Denon doesn't offer (and don't just say sound quality, as Denon sound quality is outstanding).
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