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What Structured Wiring Equip Brand do you use?
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Post 46 made on Wednesday May 11, 2005 at 13:30
avirfl
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On 05/10/05 23:51 ET, DavidatAVX said...
Avi

90% of trunk slammers Doing 5000 Best Buy and
CC installs. I'm sorry but IMO your out of touch
with the real world that many of us who post and
read in this forum live in.


Dave

I am not sure what you mean? Are you calling me a trunk slammer?? Dem's fightin’ words where I come from! My installs were featured in Electronic House; my company was on the cover of CE-Pro, and USA Today. I advocated "true" structured wire, pioneered the idea of meeting with every customer during the design process and had a 98% closure rate in upgrades. I am one of the strongest advocates for this industry, working with the CEA, HTI+ and BICSI. I live and breathe this industry everyday; it is my life and has been for over 15 years! Do not assume that just because I work for a manufacturer today, that I am out of touch.
Avi Rosenthal
Home Theater Guru
Post 47 made on Thursday May 12, 2005 at 01:42
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On 05/10/05 23:07 ET, avirfl said...
I am one of those marketing guys, and I was an
integrator for over 8 years. One of the largest
in the country! My company performed over 5000
installations. I can tell you that 90% of the
guys out there LOVE the fact that there are solutions
and packages today. The hardest thing to do in
our business is make sure that all of the stuff
works together, by the manufacturer doing this
work for you, it lets you concentrate on selling
and installing. Making more dollars per home
is what it is all about. Never suppose that the
person doing the marketing has not been in the
field, nor has pulled a wire or two in their day.
I promise you, I have been on more installs than
you. I accept your challenge, will you accept
mine? Listen to the programs and solutions that
I have built and tell me that it does not "fit"
or that you can't make money selling them, and
I will quit my job and go sell hot dogs in the
park.

Lol, What in the world are you talking about?
Post 48 made on Thursday May 12, 2005 at 01:46
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On 05/10/05 23:07 ET, avirfl said...
I am one of those marketing guys, and I was an
integrator for over 8 years. I promise you, I have been on more installs than you. |

Well, ya got me beat. I've only been an integrator for 20 years.

Still, I'll bite. What's your product?
Post 49 made on Thursday May 12, 2005 at 03:31
2nd rick
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On 05/11/05 13:30 ET, avirfl said...
I am not sure what you mean? Are you calling
me a trunk slammer?? Dem's fightin� words where
I come from! My installs were featured in Electronic
House; my company was on the cover of CE-Pro,
and USA Today. I advocated "true" structured
wire, pioneered the idea of meeting with every
customer during the design process and had a 98%
closure rate in upgrades. I am one of the strongest
advocates for this industry, working with the
CEA, HTI+ and BICSI. I live and breathe this
industry everyday; it is my life and has been
for over 15 years! Do not assume that just because
I work for a manufacturer today, that I am out
of touch.

Jeez Avi,
You must have a very large hat size...

My favorite line is "I... pioneered the idea of meeting with every customer during the design process and had a 98% closure rate in upgrades."

You were the one that pioneered the idea of meeting with customers??

Hmmmm.....
Can I claim that I was the one that pioneered the idea of aiming projectors TOWARD the screen?? or in-wall speakers OUT OF the wall cavity?? Why would anyone else have done it any other way??

Were the people in your company doing it some other way before you??

Were they passing notes like in Jr. High??
"If you think Susie likes Jimmy, check this box..."
"If you want a TV and ceiling speakers in the Master Bath, check this box..."
"Pass back to Jimmy before the insulators start"

I can DEFINITELY say that I haven't been to over 5,000 installs.

That would be over 2.4 installs a day every weekday of each of the 8 years you were an integrator, no vacations or holidays off.

We don't get too much integrated on the first day of a single job, much less wrapping up 2.4 jobs EVERY day.

Obviously you are counting sat installs and/or builder work phone and cable runs (ie: busy work) as "installs", or you are VERY efficient.
Rick Murphy
Troy, MI
Post 50 made on Friday May 13, 2005 at 00:38
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LMAO

Great post Rick.

Pioneering the idea of meeting with the customer prior to starting the job had to have been pretty groundbreaking in its day.

Yours was the first post in a while that actually had me laughing out loud.
Post 51 made on Friday May 13, 2005 at 01:09
2nd rick
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Thanks...
I try.

BTW, Avi??
JK.
Rick Murphy
Troy, MI
Post 52 made on Friday May 13, 2005 at 09:13
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Geez....

I knew I was doing something wrong. I NEVER meet with the customer.

It is SO MUCH easier that way.

Just a phone call telling them to send me that big deposit check is all. And that I consider a courtesy.....lol
Post 53 made on Friday May 13, 2005 at 09:46
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On 05/13/05 09:13 ET, Trunk-Slammer -Supreme said...
Geez....

I knew I was doing something wrong. I NEVER meet
with the customer.

It is SO MUCH easier that way.

Just a phone call telling them to send me that
big deposit check is all. And that I consider
a courtesy.....lol

I see you've read my self-help book; "Profitable Selling For Shut-ins and Sociopaths".
Carpe diem!
Post 54 made on Friday May 13, 2005 at 13:42
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I still want to know what AVI's selling.
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