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Easy on the cable guys...what about painters?
This thread has 22 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 23.
Post 16 made on Friday January 28, 2005 at 14:01
oex
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On 01/28/05 10:33 ET, Richie Rich said...
Bet they never do that again.

Next time they'll probably borrow some linemans and go snip a few. I'm to the point with my boxes I use packing tape to keep the cardboard in. PIA but works. I am screwed if they intentionally take it out.
Diplomacy is the art of saying hire a pro without actually saying hire a pro
Post 17 made on Saturday January 29, 2005 at 12:34
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How about foam insulation! That was a fun surprise. Left all our wires at our d-mark hanging in a finished basement came back to install the home box and the extra slack that was inside the wall was now permenantly stuck. Learned my lesson to not put the home box in at rough in.
Post 18 made on Saturday January 29, 2005 at 12:44
diesel
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Yea, that foam is awesome to work with!!!
Post 19 made on Saturday January 29, 2005 at 19:07
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If I find out there is foam, I charge extra and use the gray LV PVC conduit and the customer pays extra....

I even bought the expensive heat pad for PVC bending, it looks like a litle heating pad for your neck, except it's WAY hotter!!

I have seen others use a torch and get it hot enough to melt, but I know that PVC fumes are noxious, and I already inhale enough paint fumes and hardwood floor finishing fumes on a regular basis that I worry about my long term respiratory health.
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Post 20 made on Saturday January 29, 2005 at 19:19
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try a greenlee electric bender. itll do 2" no problem
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Post 21 made on Saturday January 29, 2005 at 19:26
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yeah I wouldn't recomend the PVC heat pad for your neck! That thing rules though.
Post 22 made on Saturday January 29, 2005 at 22:32
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On 01/27/05 08:56 ET, PennyG said...
Cart before the horse my friend, never go in with
finish product until the painters have left the
premises!

A good project manager stays on top of that kind of thing, and will have subs that are up to speed.

High end painters know all about what they should paint and what they should ask about painting on a high end project. That's how they end up on high end projects.
Post 23 made on Sunday January 30, 2005 at 14:08
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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On 01/27/05 12:59 ET, Tom Ciaramitaro said...
Not always!

In a television servicing class, a newbie hooked
his oscilloscope up to a hot chassis TV and the
ground wire exploded, vaporized, you classify
it. There were several inches of the ground wire
missing and several more where there was insulation
and no copper inside. Not a trace of melting
there!

A music professor I once knew could not tell this story without a look of glee:

He was on a ship during the Korean War, and there were repeated problems with the radar system. At one point they brought it down to do some work on the high voltage system.

A "technician," obviously not (first-class), was in a bit of a hurry to get things to a safe condition, so he entered the room that was basically occupied by twenty or so HUGE capacitors, the oil-filled kind with two-inch glass insulators on the terminals.

Let's give a little perspective to the young guys here. Back then, if you thought of a capacitor along the spec of the one farad cap sometimes used in car systems, you would be envisioning an entire room-sized capacitor. Then, as now, higher voltage meant larger size.

Bakc to the story -- so this idiot looks at this row of capacitors, something out of Frankenstein's lab, each about eight inches wide, two inches thick, and ten inches high. They are all bussed together. He decides the thing to do is to simply short out the capacitors. THAT'LL DO IT, just rapidly bring the voltage to zero.

(Keep in mind here that steel has higher resistance than copper.) So he whipped out a ten-inch screwdriver and gently laid it across the terminals of a capacitor. Since they were strung together, he shorted out the entire mess.

My professor friend did not see what happened, because at that moment he was some thirty feet away, around a corner, walking toward the equipment room. What he DID see was an intense green flash (yes, green) and an explosion.

The tech was thrown against the wall and ended up in sick bay. About six inches of the screwdriver was vaporized. At this point I can't remember whether the story says that the tech's silhouette remained on the wall where he fell after he was thrown into it, or if that is part of the story of the explosion in my high school chemistry lab's stockroom. I digress, but I am good at that.

Where was I going? Oh, yes: the screwdriver did not get hot. Its handle was not even warm. It simply disappeared.

Haven't you ever been tempted to clear a short circuit in speaker wiring by supplying, say, 120 volts at up to 20 amps to just blast the short circuit away?
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
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