Agreed. Stop being a nancy about it.

First, I highly doubt there are any 15amp breakers in that entire facility as it’s commercial, industrial as well maybe?

Second, are there any white or gray wires in that box? If not then it’s most likely all 2 or 3 pole breaks and none with a neutral. So that could be an easy nix of installing an outlet there.

Third, whether you use my suggested “DIY” product or the “pro” that shafer mentioned. You’ll still need to slice into the wires in the box to clamp directly into the wire using alligator clips.

Forth, if there are multiple white/gray wires thus noting multiple neutral wires. Then there’s a good chance that you could grab a hot wire from one panel and a neutral from an other panel. (Though idk if that’s allowed by code anyways. Just a thought.)

KOT

That has got to be the worst piece of advice I've ever seen on this forum.

Haven't looked. This became someone else's responsibility but I decided to just watch and see the unrelated comments roll in.


Haven't opened the box. Nice to know that gray would be a neutral instead of a hot. Didn't know that.

Unless there are wire nuts.

We really should refrain from saying "you'll still need to" when we don't know the actual situation, like, for instance, wire nuts.

Wait a minute: please distinguish how this is the same and how it is different from #2 above.


Do you mean "if you're lucky you will find" or do you mean "you might make the horrendous mistake of...." In the first case it's the HORRIBLE advice that David was referring to.

Clearly you’ve never read your own posts

As someone who recently worked in a commercial warehouse, they had 15A circuits everywhere. Just because it's commercial doesn't mean they don't use 15A circuits.


How is this advice, it's an informative statement. Although not possible by electrical code (cant feed a box from two separate panels) the real possibility is that he could be taking a hot from one circuit (and possibly a 240V circuit) and a neutral from another and really messing things up.

WTF is your problem?


As I said, I've seen electricians do it that way, and it IS a solution. Maybe too simple for your highly technical mind?

I'll let you know later today how this developed. We have an actual electrician coming to the site to add a quad to the 4" box. (I only wrote this to heighten the tension as we all wait to see what happens and what new thing we can insult one another about.)

Not sure why you think it was the worst piece of advice.

However, I have to admit that I’ve worked 98% in residential. 1% in a solar field and 1% on a submarine. But I knew a little bit here and there in industrial and commercial.

After looking up “can a raceway contain wires from two different panels.” I discovered that it’s very possible and allowed. Though there seems to be a catch if it’s two different systems, ie grid and back up. To where the grounding shall be identified which it’s from.

So in short, yes wires from two different panels can be in the same raceway, conduit and boxes.

KOT

He didn't show.

He didn’t show??? Show up to the site or what he did to find the breaker?

KOT

Edit : added “n’t”. Oops

No, he didn't show. I didn't say "he did show," so I can't make any sense of your asking about "he did show."

Being in the same raceway is not the same thing as grabbing the neutral from one system to use as the return path for the hot of a different system. You could actually kill somebody by doing this.

Well, thanks for proving my point that you can't understand simple statements. Like this one from post #6

"There is no outlet."

How is he supposed to plug in the radio when THERE IS NO OUTLET??

I think most people understood my post as a precautionary one. Meaning to watch out for grabbing a neutral and a hot from two different panels. I was not suggesting to actually do that procedure, but rather to watch out for that.

KOT