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Post 1 made on Wednesday March 31, 2021 at 10:52
tca
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We have a client who absolutely refuses to use anything that relies on the internet or wifi when it comes to audio. He wants us to install bookshelf speakers in several rooms and connect them to a stereo receiver with a volume control speaker selector. He has an iPod and that is how he wants to play the music.

The issue is running wires is extremely difficult.

We are trying to convince him to use Sonos with a nas drive. Is there a way to set up sonos without relying on the internet? Does the sonos app still work if the internet is down as long as the local network is up? If not, does anyone have any other solutions?

Thanks.
Post 2 made on Wednesday March 31, 2021 at 11:08
SammPX
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Dynaudio has some stuff that may do what you want

[Link: dynaudio.com]
Post 3 made on Wednesday March 31, 2021 at 12:21
buzz
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Sonos needs an Internet connection for setup and updates, but not for playing local sources. For the iPod, you'll need a Sonos unit with Line-In.

Modern receivers support some sort of local wireless connection, typically Airplay2. The biggest issue at the moment is finding something in stock.

iPod is really old and not well supported. If he has a means to backup the music, make a backup ASAP.
Post 4 made on Wednesday March 31, 2021 at 14:12
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I would say his comfort level is with old school, so your job is to introduce him to new technology.

Bring a couple of Sonos One speakers out, and leave them with him for a week so he can play. Show him how the installation will be magnitudes cheaper than what he has in mind.

If he has his music on a desktop computer in iTunes, then you can set it up as a share volume on Sonos, and show him how quickly he can get to all of his music without walking to the main room of the house.

Usually Sonos sells itself.

I will sometimes set it up and leave it for people like that, other times I show them screenshots that I have saved in my phone or tablet to give them a vision of how well it works.
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Post 5 made on Wednesday March 31, 2021 at 14:55
Rob Grabon
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Missing the why?

Expects that it'll break often?
Doesn't trust online stuff for privacy?
Feels it won't sound as good?
Not technically literate, doesn't want to use an app for music control?

The last one is the hardest to overcome. The others you can handle with NAS for his files, a CD player or Tuner as sources that don't rely on the Internet etc., explain and demonstrate performance.
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Post 6 made on Wednesday March 31, 2021 at 17:26
Impaqt
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Bluesound is a much better option in this scenario. Get him a Vault to rip his CD's to. I've run Bluesound systems completely isolated from teh Internet with no trouble at all. Just set it up at the office, and bring it to the jobsite.
Post 7 made on Wednesday March 31, 2021 at 17:58
ceied
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wow i would lust sell him a multi zone audio system... and call it a day.... screw sonos and the digital crap. make sonos a source, not a solution.
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Post 8 made on Wednesday March 31, 2021 at 19:19
buzz
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The biggest issue that I encounter with similar customers is that they are convinced that the ONLY easy to use player is the iPod or whatever they are currently using. They absolutely do not want to learn anything new. tomciara's suggestion of loaning a system might be helpful, but that will still run into the problem of needing to learn something new.

A lot of "easy" is personal preference. I still remember my encounter with an original iPod at a customer site. I had heard how easy they were to use. I tinkered with it for a few minutes. I thought that the user interface was incredibly hard to navigate. I don't think that I have touched one since. I had an iPod touch for a while, only because it supported Sonos. It was not my favorite user interface.
Post 9 made on Wednesday March 31, 2021 at 20:57
Redbiker98
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I have a customer like this, we DL'd all his CDs to his Mac Mini. He mostly listened to Sirrius/XM though through his system. Recently showed him Apple Music service, he immediately dropped the old Polk Sirrius/XM tuner and the Mac Mini as sources and I installed a MusiCast player with a new iPad to control it. He has never been happier.
Post 10 made on Saturday September 25, 2021 at 09:56
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If he paranoid? Wanting to use an iPod and "absolutely refuses to use anything that relies on the internet or wifi when it comes to audio" seem to contradict each other, unless he plans to rip his own files.

Bluetooth can work, but the building would dictate that- I have used the Miccus BT receiver and the range is excellent, even though the signal has to pass through three concrete block walls to go from the handheld device to the receiver (shortest physical path) in a school gym with a full basketball court. This Miccus piece can be used as a transmitter or receiver, so the system could have one transmitter and several receivers, but I haven't used it in that way, so I don't know if latency would be a problem. It's only about $50, so buying one for testing won't break the bank.
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Post 11 made on Friday October 1, 2021 at 11:49
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@TCA, is the issue he likes old school, he is worried about reliability or does he not want WiFi in his house. I had a customer that thought WiFi would give him cancer so all his computers were hard-wired for internet. I just walked away from that job, I do not want to deal with that kind of crazy.


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