So I am looking for a 25 port HDMI switch to hookup in a gaming room where I want 20+ game systems available. Needs to have IP, Serial or IR discrete control and be able to accommodate systems all the way up to PS5 X-Box Series X. I would be coming our of this switch into an AVR with HDMI. Any ideas?

AV Pro is your best option.
Use Two of these (#1 into a port on #2).

[Link: avproedge.com]

20 game systems?  You're going to need something with the lowest possible latency.

wow. thats..... ambitious.

the AVPro is a great piece. but I'd have to say the Savant 10Gig VOIP system is a better option for this scenario.

Remember, if these TVs are scattered around the house the controllers aren’t going to work.


Could you enlighten us as to why you need 25 consoles? Latency is going to be your next issue. I’m not even sure a networked based system is going to work.

The cost of this switch is going to be more expensive then just adding a console to every tv.

Nothing like installing a 100k distribution system for a call at 10:30PM because little Johnny keeps getting his ass handed to him in fortnight.

I’ll add you might need to look at a fiber based system

Thanks for the input guys, I have been looking at the AVPro Edge stuff, have no doubt its great quality just wondering if there is a cheaper option, feels like I would be paying a lot for the matrix ability that I dont need here but I realize that the newer systems need something that can handle the latest formats too...

the cheaper you go, the worse it gets

Well, you still haven't told us what this is for.

But with 20 game consoles involved, with only 1 output.... into an AVR....
The practicality of what you are trying to do, is certainly a VERY niche purpose. Which 100% means you are going to be using 'specialty' products to accomplish the task. That automatically means "not cheap". Period.

Also: If you are going to try and push 48Gbps (4K HDR, 4:4:4, 120Hz), you will likely fail at anything you try to cobble together. You just can't go thru multiple devices with a signal like that and succeed. At least the chances are slim, with today's technology.
It's hard enough getting a signal like that to go thru just an AVR to a monitor, with an extender involved. Throw in a large HDMI switching device.... I don't know, current experience tells me you are going to have to use something more like 4K 4:2:0 60Hz, to get what you want accomplished.

My 2 cents, given the information provided? Walk over and plug an hdmi cable into the console you want to play at the time. Want to get funky? Build an HDMI patch bay, and play "operator" with your patch cable. 👌

To elaborate on the setup its a house that will have centralized gear distributed with HDMI fiber through a matrix switch. However the "gaming room" will have all the game systems local to accommodate hooking up accessories/controllers and that will be the only room the games need to be played in. This room will be running a 7.2.4 AVR in the centralized location. I'll run conduit + hdmi fiber back to centralized rack from the local cabinet housing the game systems. Perhaps I should go with all the legacy (1080p or below systems) through a smaller HDMI switch and the newer systems dedicated HDMI Fiber runs? Bit of an irregular situation I know, open to other suggestions...

Aren’t most of those 20 consoles going to be analog video?

I'm not sure about the overall goal. Do you want to have the ability to display the output of one gaming system to a central big screen? Is each game system stand alone with its own controller and only the sound and video needs to be switched to the central monitor?

If this is the case, each game system would need to have a two way split -- one output to it's dedicated monitor and the other goes to central.

A large matrix would be one approach with all of the game outputs run to a central point. From an administrative and future proof standpoint this would be the obvious approach, but at a cost.

A contrarian approach would be to use smaller, less expensive HDMI switches, local to a small cluster of games. Each cluster output would feed another switch, a cluster of clusters, if you like. Eventually, the final switch in the chain feeds the central monitor. In this scheme you would need fewer long HDMI cables. A control system can tie all of this together. The operator would simply indicate which game to display. You'll need to push some numbers around to figure out the most cost effective configuration. For example, 4-port switches are cheaper than 8-port switches, but you would need fewer 8-port switches and probably somewhat longer HDMI cables for 8-port. All of this must be balanced against the cost of one large, expensive central switch and HDMI wiring.

Note that switching from one game system to the next would not be instant with this multi-switch approach because there would need to be a chain of EDID negotiations. A central switch could offer instant switching (not all switches offer this feature) -- at a price.

You can build a modular chassis from Extron using (5) 4 RX fiber input boards receiving signal from hdmi fiber transmitters that have local output as well. Then just a single 4 output hdmi board to feed 1 to the display and 1 to the avr. Could also use another output to feed the house system for viewing.

Still is gonna cost the client at least 100k msrp just for the switching system, but would be the most solid 4K distribution system.

There's an AVR. Use multiple hdmi 4x1 or 5x1 switchers and connect them to the multiple inputs of the AVR.