Your Universal Remote Control Center
RemoteCentral.com
Custom Installers' Lounge Forum - View Post
Previous section Next section Previous page Next page Up level
Up level
The following page was printed from RemoteCentral.com:

Login:
Pass:
 
 

Page 1 of 2
Topic:
Is anyone still using Leviton Bitwise?
This thread has 19 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15.
Post 1 made on Thursday August 20, 2020 at 15:27
jeffr123
Junior Member
Joined:
Posts:
August 2020
3
Is Leviton Bitwise still a thing?

We're an extremely low volume dealer, a few conference rooms a year, so we wouldn't qualify for any of the other manufacturer dealer programs, so Bitwise looks like it could be a good platform for us. We set up a BC1 in our conference room and it seems like everything works pretty well, in initial testing all the basic functionality is there, and we had good luck creating 2-way javascript drivers for the devices we standardize on. The Aleera template from Blackman Signature Design is awesome.

However, the total absence of discussion about Bitwise on any forums, coupled with the complete lack of development from Leviton makes me wonder if it's going to be around much longer.

It seems like they had tremendous momentum going with a great features and functionality getting added all the time, and then after the Leviton acquisition it just came to a halt. The shutdown of the dealer forums seems like a huge loss for any collaboration and best practice sharing.

I'd be grateful for any thoughts on this.
Post 2 made on Thursday August 20, 2020 at 16:18
ericspencer
Active Member
Joined:
Posts:
December 2011
536
I think Leviton is where a few automation companies have gone to die. They dont seem to do anything to innovate new products once they acquire an automation company.
Not my circus, not my monkeys
Post 3 made on Thursday August 20, 2020 at 23:51
ggarza270
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
November 2010
158
I’ve ripped out a few BitWise installs. The owners that had them always had issues with trying to get the app to connect.

If your looking for a product with no dealer programs you can take a look at RTI. I’ve used them for conference rooms and media rooms in apartment complexes. The interfaces are customizable and they have all kinds of different touchscreens you choose from. I haven’t used them in a bit except for servicing my old installs, but you used to be able join their developer program and get the software to make your own drivers.
Post 4 made on Friday August 21, 2020 at 01:20
davidcasemore
Super Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2003
3,352
Leviton bought HAI and then let it die. Now there are thousands and thousands of OmniPro II systems all over the globe that don't have any upgrade path or spare parts available. My guess is that they'll do the same with BitWise.
Fins: Still Slamming' His Trunk on pilgrim's Small Weenie - One Trunk at a Time!
Post 5 made on Friday August 21, 2020 at 09:03
Fred Harding
Super Member
Joined:
Posts:
October 2001
3,460
second this.
On the West Coast of Wisconsin
OP | Post 6 made on Friday August 21, 2020 at 11:45
jeffr123
Junior Member
Joined:
Posts:
August 2020
3
Thanks everyone, this kind of confirms my fears. RTI looks interesting, I don't mind joining dealer or dev programs and paying a reasonable fee. But I just assumed that RTI had minimum revenue numbers like the rest, so I didn't want to get caught unable to support my installs a few years down the road. Are they cool with low volume dealers?
Post 7 made on Friday August 21, 2020 at 12:20
Brad Humphrey
Super Member
Joined:
Posts:
February 2004
2,598
On August 21, 2020 at 11:45, jeffr123 said...
Thanks everyone, this kind of confirms my fears. RTI looks interesting, I don't mind joining dealer or dev programs and paying a reasonable fee. But I just assumed that RTI had minimum revenue numbers like the rest, so I didn't want to get caught unable to support my installs a few years down the road. Are they cool with low volume dealers?

They are available thru distribution, so you could literally just sell 1 remote a year and be fine. Or go a year with no RTI being sold at all and be fine.

Note however the latest programming software for RTI (APEX) has a step learning curve. It will most likely take you awhile to get proficient at it. Those who use it often seem to like it. I could never figure it out and said screw it.
Post 8 made on Monday August 24, 2020 at 01:01
gwstudios
Senior Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2004
1,376
Leviton was going to try to get into the home automation market a second time with Bitwise. They developed software to make the OnmiTouch 7 work with Bitwise. I have one, and I flashed it to the new firmware / OS.

It just sort of died after that. Bitwise (basic IR) could be programmed by just about anyone with no training. They stopped updating the app a while back, so it will eventually stop working with newer versions of iOS.

I keep a bunch of BC4s around for friends, family, and myself. They are dirt cheap and super easy to replace all of someone's IR remotes with. Plus, I developed most of the templates ever released for Bitwise, so graphics will never be an issue for me.
Post 9 made on Friday September 25, 2020 at 19:20
kwkshift
Active Member
Joined:
Posts:
February 2004
508
I really likes Bitwise and had installed several dozen of them years ago. The only "failure" I ever had was a wall-wart power supply died on one. That's it. They were rock solid. But after they were bought out by Leviton, they just let the Bitwise ecosystem die. It's unfortunate. I still use mine and have a few customers that still use them. Oh well.
Post 10 made on Sunday September 27, 2020 at 03:31
DianeWhite
Junior Member
Joined:
Posts:
September 2020
1
As it is designed for customizable control of sub-systems within home theaters, retail, restaurants, boardrooms, classrooms, houses of worship, and much more, it should still be a thing.
Post 11 made on Thursday March 18, 2021 at 01:42
craigtcasson
Junior Member
Joined:
Posts:
March 2021
1
I just heard from my distributor that Leviton is pulling out of the automation game all together this year, probably a good thing, is RTI the only viable option for gear like the BC4? Anyone got any other options?
Post 12 made on Thursday March 18, 2021 at 04:59
buzz
Super Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2003
4,376
RTI would be a good option. You'll need to invest some time learning the development tool, but it's a good investment. The grumpy comments that you encounter are coming from longtime RTI programmers who must give up old habits and learn new, better habits. You don't have any of this old baggage to unload. Large, multiroom projects are much easier to manage with Apex.
Post 13 made on Thursday March 18, 2021 at 08:56
Ranger Home
Super Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2007
3,486
Leviton has a history of spending money to buy companies to only shut them down. Never could figure out their logic.
Post 14 made on Thursday March 18, 2021 at 12:33
goldenzrule
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
July 2007
8,474
Did Leviton start labeling the BC4s with Leviton on the front? I pulled out of a job that I thought looks like a BC4 but didn't may much attention to it as it was a full system overhaul.
Post 15 made on Sunday March 21, 2021 at 11:19
tweetymp4
Select Member
Joined:
Posts:
March 2003
2,139
yes
I'm Not an engineer, but I play one on TV.
My handle is Tweety but I have nothing to do with the organization of similar name. I just had a really big head as a child so folks called me tweety bird.
Page 1 of 2


Jump to


Protected Feature Before you can reply to a message...
You must first register for a Remote Central user account - it's fast and free! Or, if you already have an account, please login now.

Please read the following: Unsolicited commercial advertisements are absolutely not permitted on this forum. Other private buy & sell messages should be posted to our Marketplace. For information on how to advertise your service or product click here. Remote Central reserves the right to remove or modify any post that is deemed inappropriate.

Hosting Services by ipHouse